Latest odds: McCain hot favourite/Centrebet backs Key
Centerbet's odds for the next Prime Minister after the general election:
2.60 LABOUR PARTY (Helen Clark)
1.47 NATIONAL PARTY (John Key)
What centrebet got wrong last time (and that I got right) was the lack of mates that National has in parliament and their misreading of the on the ground situation and also the massive amount of money that gung-ho Nat supporters poured in to back Brash. They could well be wrong this time too.
To the US odds now that Edwards has backed out.
The Democratic nominee:
1.40-1.50 Clinton
2.50-2.92 Obama
The Republican nominee:
1.14-1.20 McCain
2.90-6.80 Romney
21-36 Huckabee
64-101 Paul
And the parties:
1.40-1.57 Democrat
2.25-2.75 Republican
So it looks at this stage that the States will have either its first female President or its first black President. Of course it is possible that out of the wash they could both be on the ticket as Pres and VP. Could be a watershed moment.
posted by Tim Selwyn @ 12:15 pm
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8 Comments:
WHAT A STINKER YESTERDAY HUH?
FLETCHERS GOT 50,000 HECTARES IN THE FORESTRY "SALE OF THE CENTURY" BUT HE HAD A CHIP ON HIS SHOULDER!
Both good points well made.
Got agree on the NZ General Election, if its was 'biggest party after the next election then I could agree, but PM stats...that's a bit off!?!
Although I'll be amazed if the biggest party at any election doesn't end up cobbling together some unholy alliance based on pandering to many differing special interests to secure power. This is politics and after a long spell out the Nats WANT power back, so I could see some very odd coalitions taking shape.
Can't see Hillary doing it, she'll beat Obama ok, but is she going to be able to win the extra swing states needed against a Republican (McCain) who is popular with Democrats and Independents, that Al Gore and John Kerry couldn't win against someone like Bush. I really can't see it.
McCain and Huckabee to take it.
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But Bush took those swing states with the evangelical vote, McCain can't count on that sort of support
...do you have faith in the US election Bomber?
The last two weren't exactly legal, first being rigged, second was thrown.
I think it's sad how the US has let itself be fucked in the ass by the world bankers after the loss of the Kennedys and Martin Luther King.
A black man or a woman president is just the thing to make the country feel like they're progressing. In the end, all to the presidency throne are only there with the backing of big $$$. Mind fucking the people's easy.
ha ha luke...got any proof for those assertions? How exactly has the US "Let itself be fucked in the ass by the world bankers"? Word of advice champ, don't get caught up to much in conspiracies, whether of your own or someone else's making, you'll go crazy :P Oh, and don't read too many Dan Brown novels either ha ha
Good point Bomber, and I do um and ar about this one. McCain will struggle to get his evangelicals out for sure, and some Republican commentators are furious with his success, and have stated they won't vote, irrespective of whether its Hillary he's up against.
I do think though that the Democrats themselves are split on Hillary, you either support and vote for her now, or you are quite unsure. I could see McCain picking up quite a few of the softer Democrat and a lot of Independents.
The fundies may also be more inclined to go with him if they think Huckabee will keep him on the stright and narrow. Would be very healthy for the Republicans to win without those clowns as the capture they have over the GOP is insane, considering their numbers and its only a 2 party system.
I dearly hope that Obama picks up a lot of the Edwards vote, and would be happy enough with him in the big job. He may be able to pull a Bill Clinton and win some of those tough states on the back of his charisma..whereas Hillary I'm not so sure about?!
"ha ha luke...got any proof for those assertions? How exactly has the US "Let itself be fucked in the ass by the world bankers"?
Hrrm how about Executive Order No. 11110?
It gave the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve.
Why is that important?
When currency is produced by the reserve, there is an added interest to each dollar that is to be payed back. Seeing as the reserve is the only producer of money then where does the money to pay the interest come from? Back to the federal reserve (note that the federal reserve is not apart of the government, its 100% private)
About $4billion was produced of the "United States Dollar" until the death of Kennedy, Johnson stopped production saying that the treasury didn't have enough silver or gold to back it up...even though trillions of dollars worth of gold and silver was ceased during the depression.
Which by the way was a product of the federal reserve.
Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment.
Before you throw "that's a lie, Johnson pushed on with Vietnam and that's what Kennedy would of done"
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/n263.GIF
If you've ever listened or read any Kennedy speech, you would know that he was not a believer in war and knew the truth of who really runs the U.S.
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03NewspaperPublishers04271961.htm
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