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Monday, March 23, 2009

Our violent, over crowded prison system


Leaked report reveals rise in prison assaults
Prisoners are most likely to attack their guards on Monday mornings, typically by punching them in the head. If they use a weapon, it is most commonly hot water, tea, or urine, thrown in the guard's face. Prisoners have also used food trays, chairs, pool balls and wood to attack guards, but rarely use knives, according to an internal Corrections Department report leaked to the Sunday Star-Times. The report, which covers all prison assaults since July 2003, says assaults on staff increased from 1.7 per 100 prisoners to 4.3 per 100 in 2007-08, and total notified assaults increased by 3.85 per 100. The report suggests a noticeable rise in 2006-07 could be linked to the increase in the prison muster at that time. The report comes amid concern over rising violence in prisons, including the killing of prisoner Tue Faavae this month at the maximum security unit at Auckland Prison. A visiting Australian union leader, Colin Rosewarne, described Paremoremo as "putrid" and Mt Eden as simply "archaic".

Well, well, well – as was predicted a thousand times here on Tumeke, increase the number of prisoners inside and that stress creates violence, and we are NOW looking to double bunk prisoners in these tiny cells. Our thirst for vengeance, driven by the Sensible Sentencing Trust who may or may not be secretly funded by the Private Prison industry, has warped our social policy with hate and this is the result. National’s solution is to privatize the entire Prison system meaning that the motives have moved from rehabilitation to profit, and those private prisons make profits from more NZers in more prisons for longer – which is why overseas these corporations spend vast sums of money on victims rights groups who create a furious level of public debate which allows for harder and longer sentences.

The Lynch mob have so far won the debate, reason has retreated in NZ.

Good to see Colin Espiner attack National and ACTs la and order policies as well, the mainstream media ARE waking up!

Crime laws put Nats on the brink
Very soon this National administration is going to face a stiff test of its abilities as a government. I'm not talking about job losses or the recession. Nor am I talking about climate change or immigration or the education system or any of the many pressing issues that confront National. I'm talking about the clamour from the talkback-phoning, hatchet-weilding, noose-knotting "hang 'em high'' brigade who masquerade under the pretence of being ordinary citizens concerned about law and order. During the election campaign National greatly encouraged these bloodthirsty but essentially profoundly misguided folk by whipping up a fervour over longer sentences for violent criminals, and in particular a pledge to lock up repeat offenders sentenced to five years or more in prison without parole. Moves are afoot, however, to somehow combine such a profoundly inhumane - and not to mention illegal under United Nations covenants we are a signatory to - piece of law with the ACT Party's even more ludicrous "Three Strikes'' legislation.

11 Comments:

At 23/3/09 9:38 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes we should let these violent people out into society rather than locking them away, that'll sort it out.

 
At 23/3/09 10:33 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, dehumanizing them by locking them up like rats in a double bunked violent cage will work, the really funny bit will be the puzzelled look on your face Anon when they reoffend once they've been let out - 'surely we brutalized them heaps last time' anon will say.

 
At 23/3/09 11:00 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So do you actually have an alternative to prison lol? No you don't do you, just parrot exactly what Bomber says, let him think for you.

and BTW lol, we haven't seen you around here since before the election: how's that SEACHANGE going?
You must have been a little upset with bomber when that little opinion that he formulated for you didn't quite work out.

 
At 23/3/09 11:25 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL - oh you lurking little right wing anons, I've been overseas in Europe for a couple of months my dear, so don't you fret.

Well National didn't win 50% of the vote like the polls were predicting and the right wing only won by the margin they did because NZ First just came under the 5% threshold, so we are talking a couple of percentage points. SEACHANGE wasn't too bad a claim.

The alternatives to prison are well known, bomber has talked about lots of them, better funded prisons that are safe from violence where prisoners can learn to read and write, and they stay in until they've actually shown a level of reform, to use parole as a tool to change behaviour rather than just making beds free.

 
At 23/3/09 12:08 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SEACHANGE wasn't too bad a claim.

Sure, except there wasn't a SEACHANGE at all, Labour got less than the polls predicted, lost a whole raft of safe Labour seats, and are no polling lower than they ever had. The greens defied all expectations and failed to pick up much of what Labour lost. National and Act are now in power. Your SEACAHNGE was and is a complete joke.

bomber has talked about lots of them

All I have ever heard Bomber talk about is concentrating on early intervention, to stop people from actually getting to the point where they are imprisoned in the first place. All fine and dandy except A) Bomber never tells us how this would happen apart from some vague references to extra funding and B) Early intervention does NOTHING to solve the problem of keeping the public safe from the very violent people who are currently offending or in prison right now.


better funded prisons that are safe from violence

Really? How do you "make prisons safe from violence"? What dos that even mean?

they stay in until they've actually shown a level of reform, to use parole as a tool to change behaviour rather than just making beds free.
So you are saying we should keep prisoners in jail until we are satisfied they are reformed and won't reoffend? Sounds like a recipe for prison over-crowding to me.

 
At 23/3/09 12:11 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like a recipe for prison over-crowding to me.

You hear what you want

 
At 23/3/09 12:35 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

All I have ever heard Bomber talk about is concentrating on early intervention, to stop people from actually getting to the point where they are imprisoned in the first place. All fine and dandy except A) Bomber never tells us how this would happen apart from some vague references to extra funding and B) Early intervention does NOTHING to solve the problem of keeping the public safe from the very violent people who are currently offending or in prison right now.

Hello lol, welcome back, hope Europe was fun. Yes I'm afraid anon does hear what anon wants, as I have made these points ( better funded prisons that are safe from violence where prisoners can learn to read and write, and they stay in until they've actually shown a level of reform, to use parole as a tool to change behaviour rather than just making beds free.) about prison many times. The hard right on this debate NEVER want to look at the alternative examples for prisons, they just want to stick their heads up their own self rightous arses and continue with a system that doesn't work, I note anon you don't even try and pretend to debate the actual story on increased attacks in prisons, preferring to attack lol for backing my call that there was a seachange that didn't give National a 50% majority.

 
At 23/3/09 1:13 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't lol on of those climate change believers?

Hope you swam to Europe lol?, otherwise I guess you're just another hypocrite pumping co2 into the atmosphere. tsk tsk.

Funny how these people want everyone else to do the hard yards ain't it?

seachange (snigger)

 
At 23/3/09 1:36 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To state the obvious, Prison is a waste of time.

I propose Home Detention and Periodic Detention be used far more and prisons reserved for those who are a danger to society.

We can also make a greater use of fines, or economic penalties.

The Finnish model is good and takes the wind out of the victimhood lobby by paying reparations to victims of crime directly by the state and the state then takes that back from the criminals themselves over time, in open prisons, through their labours & training. This all makes for a happier society as the victims are recompensed monetarily (think ACC) and the state gets this back through the convicts working it off and lower overheads through less prisons.

 
At 23/3/09 7:19 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I've been overseas in Europe for a couple of months my dear, so don't you fret."

Yeah, like they haven't got the internet there.

 
At 24/3/09 2:43 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daresay there will be questions about the Austrian model in light of the news that Josef Fritz gets to pick where he lives.

A luxury home. His daughter and his grandchildren didn't get to pick there they lived but he does, there is really no punishment here, he is 73 so he just going into state funded care a couple of years early.

Still it was his first offence (in theory at least) so I guess that’s fair. Fritz did have ‘previous’ but under Austrian law that got wiped after a few years and all forgotten and he became ‘respectable’.

Like all serious criminals (Ian Huntly) not having any previous charges (let alone convictions) does not mean you don't have a history.

That is why it is so important to always prosecute - sure it can look like its not worth the effort because they get nothing but it builds up a paper trail and court history and that could just save someone.

If Huntley had been charged for his earlier sexual 'activities' maybe he wouldn't have got the job at that school and maybe those poor girls would be alive.

If Fritz had earlier charges and investigations keep on an active file maybe questions about the disappearance of his daughter and the appearance of other children would have lead the authorities to have investigated him much earlier.

 

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