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Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Immigration numbers

The NZ Herald's editorial this morning, 'There's no need to fear more Asians settling in Auckland', is an articulation of the standard position of the business class, the government and the local Council's official line. They are pushing the same line because their interests are served by increasing immigration. The NZ Herald itself is an immigrant founded paper making money out of the population increase, so it is not surprising they advocate for the mass immigration policy and they run editorials as short of information as the official plans. It is a propaganda exercise when they leave information out as much as it is when they try to tell people what people think.

The premise the NZ Herald starts with is that a lack of comment on the Auckland Plan means everything is fine and there is no objection to what is being projected and what is being planned. This is not the case. Wading through a report of almost 400 pages and then relying on data that is 9 years instead of the usual 30 or 50 years is why people don't object - they aren't being told the full facts or even half. The NZ Herald continues the ruse in the editorial. They blithely tell their readers :
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''Population trends mean, in effect, that Auckland's three main ethnic groups of Europeans, Asians and people of Maori and Pacific heritage will soon be of roughly equal size.''
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They already are, what about after that, after 9 year? Where's that in the 30-50 years of the Plan? It isn't in the Plan and the editorial carefully avoids that crucial point too. Why? Because the trends mean the Asian group will be bigger than a third, they will be the majority and it wil be an 'Asian' city by the end of this century. That is the official plan. If you object to it you are a racist - that's the official line.

Granny Herald's assertion that Asian immigrants have created ''no significant problems'' and therefore, ''why should further increase be the subject of fear?'' could best be resolved by the Granny's own record. They promoted immigration, confiscation and exploitation from the first decade they published (1860s) and Maori went from majority to a minority in that time and lost almost everything in the process to a new order of foreigners (with the Herald making on it at every turn). That is what history has to say. And we all know how that turned out for Maori. Pakeha are being told to lie back and think of NZ as the same process happens to them. We've already witnessed Beijing orchestrated political parties, rallies, newspapers, and the PRC's cultural arm, the Confucious Institute, funding Chinese language books etc. in libraries - this is the social and political reality of large numbers from China (in particular). In present numbers, from a society 30 times as old as NZ with 250 times the population, there will be problems with integratio, and the outside power whose citizens are set to be a permanent force i(and potentially a majority eventually) in what is a fresh colony (a mere 170 years old) will act to advance their interests and their people - not ours.

But what we are dealing with now is more resentment than fear. The Pakeha profiteers from immigration sit securely in their workplaces, live in their suburbs, taking their kids to their schools, and go about their social activities amongst other Pakeha without mixing with or being effected by Asian immigrnts. These Pakeha who constitute the media, business, management and government are surrounded by Pakeha and white immigrants they can relate to and communicate with rather than the increasingly typical Pakeha (and Maori) working class experience of workplaces, neighbourhoods and situations in which they are amongst Asian immigrants and subject to their influence. That experience is very different to the elite. The elite determines NZ Immigration policy and it is about making the rich richer and the immigrant richer - not about enriching everyone. The Treasury focusses on GDP and so every warm body through customs is considered a good thing in the received ideology regardless of the net effect.

In conclusion, people just aren't told the truth by their officials or by their leaders, data is fudged (the Plan conflates European and Other to get a bare majority figure for 2021) and the mantra of 'NZ needs more people' (as the immigrant leader in another article in today's paper chanted on cue) is essentially the peddling of a narrow self-interest.

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At 13/3/13 12:34 am, Blogger Wayne Lo said...

The Pakeha profiteers from immigration sit securely in their workplaces, live in their suburbs, taking their kids to their schools, and go about their social activities amongst other Pakeha without mixing with or being effected by Asian immigrnts."

Uplifted straight from vintage anti-immigration racist writings in the US ala Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, John Derbyshire and others of their ilk.

But the situation in New Zealand is almost the complete opposite of what it is in the US, where a large part of the migrant population is Hispanic.

What you describe is the complete opposite of the actual situation. In fact it is the elite schools, such as Auckland Grammar, St Cuthberts, St Kentigerns etc that are swarming with Asians, and it is the wealthier suburbs which have sigificantly higher proportions of Asians than the poorer ones.

The situation is the same in America. The children of the wealthy go to elite universities such as Harvard and Yale which abound with Asians.

So you can't even get your basic facts right to start with Tim.

 
At 13/3/13 2:25 pm, Blogger paul scott said...

good to see you backin action Mr Tim Selwyn

 
At 16/3/13 10:13 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is more than ittle bit racist ... books in lbiraries in the Chinese languages shock horror!

 
At 17/3/13 4:56 pm, Blogger paul scott said...

yes Tim, I think we can now accept that NZ will be a truly multi cultural society . Once those damnned Asians get into parliament you never know what happen,end of claptrsap monocultural racism, damn them damn them bloody asians and you know what Tim, if I ever saw anybody of Asian descent it is you.

 
At 18/3/13 3:59 pm, Blogger Tim Selwyn said...

Wayne: I haven't read - or heard of - the American stuff you seem to think this is borrowed from. These are my observations as a born and bred Aucklander.

You are correct about the schooling situation however. What I was trying to describe is the "white flight" situation; but it also occurs for the higher income Asians. The brown/black schools v. the white/yellow schools in other words. These things have happened because of immigration numbers.

Anon: the chinese books in libraries aren't extra, the space they use isn't additional and at no cost - for every shelf of Chinese books there is a shelf of other books that have to be removed. The last Auckland branch library I went to the Chinese language books outnumbered the Maori books. What does that say about official policy and their concept of (non)integration. Chinese (like other immigrants)should be embracing the local English and Maori. This is being sponsored in some part by the Chinese government.If 20% of Shanghai was European and projected to be much more - would they complain about English books in their libraries? You bet.

 
At 19/3/13 12:49 am, Blogger Wayne Lo said...

"These are my observations as a born and bred Aucklander."

Your observations are bogus. You make the claim that rich Pakeha do not have to rub shoulder to shoulder with Asian migrants. That is utter bs. Howick, Pakuranga, the North Shore is full of Asian migrants to at least as great an extent as South or West Auckland. Former Pakeha dominated suburbs, many upper middle class, have been transformed as much as poorer suburbs.

This is a fact. Again. Your observations are bogus.

"The brown/black schools v. the white/yellow schools in other words."

'black' schools? Again stop confusing the US for New Zealand, Tim.

If 20% of Shanghai was European and projected to be much more - would they complain about English books in their libraries?

English television channels, radio, books, print media abound in Asia. You obviously have not traveled much Tim. As for the English, you yourself know that they have done their fair share of displacing people all over the world -- not that that should be held against them now.

And certainly the wealth of New Zealand, Australia, indeed the entire West as in part built on the plunder of Asian and African resources. Getting to the riches of the East is what impelled the so-called age of discovery.

So Asians coming to the West is just getting back some of the wealth stolen off their ancestors.

 
At 19/3/13 12:54 am, Blogger Wayne Lo said...

The Pakeha profiteers from immigration sit securely in their workplaces, live in their suburbs, taking their kids to their schools, and go about their social activities amongst other Pakeha without mixing with or being effected by Asian immigrnts

Tim --what city do you live in dude. Pakeha are not affected by Asian immigrants, but poor brown people are? The facts as they stand are almost a complete reversal of what you claim to be reality.

I'm sure planeloads of wealthy Chinese dream of living in Otara and sending their kids to Hilary College? Or is it Bucklands Beach and Macleans College.

 
At 19/3/13 1:00 am, Blogger Wayne Lo said...

The brown/black schools v. the white/yellow schools in other words.

So where would you send your kids to school Tim, if you had the choice - Hilary College or Auckland Grammar. If you had a daughter, Otahuhu College or St Cuthberts? Come on. Be honest now.

People that can afford to do so, whether White, Asian, Maori, Pacific, or whatever, will send their kids to the best school they can afford.

Nothing to do with racial flight. But everything to do with keeping their kids away from some of the pathologies that afflict lower decile schools.

 
At 20/3/13 10:07 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maori racism is the elephant in the room...

 
At 22/3/13 7:22 am, Anonymous kiwicando said...

Good observations Tim.

Mortgages represent over 60% of the banking business. Realestate prices rise 10% with every 1% net increase in migration. NZ is the worst nation in the OECD at retaining our skilled citizens, second worst over all. Multiculturalism is being used to entrench an illegitimate state and create new social norms that do not respect the lore of the land, kiatiakitanga (guardianship of the land) etc.

 
At 22/3/13 8:57 pm, Blogger Wayne Lo said...

"NZ is the worst nation in the OECD at retaining our skilled citizens, second worst over all."

New Zealand is the size of a medium sized city in Europe or Asia. It is inevitable that young, skilled people will want to leave and see the big wide world.

"Realestate prices rise 10% with every 1% net increase in migration"

While then, reduce immigration. But Tim's beef is with non-white migrants, not white migrants. It is racial. Not against immigration per se.

"Multiculturalism is being used to entrench an illegitimate state and create new social norms that do not respect the lore of the land, kiatiakitanga (guardianship of the land) etc."

Meaningless, unsubstantiated statement.

 

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