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Sunday, July 24, 2011

More white NZers kill white NZ children than Maori kill Maori children


Pakeha child abuse ignored - researcher
Pakeha kill just as many children as Maori do, despite Maori being the "face of abuse" in the media, according to a researcher.

Social work lecturer Raema Merchant said focusing on Maori parents diverts attention away from the fact Pakeha can harm children too.

"I'm not denying it's a problem for Maori, but if we're just focusing on Maori we're ignoring the Pakeha side," she said.

"It's almost as though Pakeha are putting their heads in the sand and saying there is no Pakeha child abuse."

Her master's thesis at the Eastern Institute of Technology found about half of the children killed in New Zealand died at the hands of a Pakeha abuser.



I'm sorry, 50% of Kids die at the hands of white NZers, yet the overwhelming media attention and myopic ratings focused presentation of the gruesome details is always on the 30% that are Maori?

You know a News Producers mouth waters when he gets a story of young Maori youth breaking into an old war hero's home and beating him up, stereotypes that concur with a base recognition in the ignorant rates better by playing to the worst angels of our nature than a reasoned approach to news gathering.

Our Public Broadcaster should be resisiting this easy race baiting rather than reinforcing it. In 1984, 40% of the news on TVNZ was politics, after the viewer as consumer restructuring, that had fallen by 1996 to only 20%, with the other 20% now crime stories. If it bleeds, it leads because shock stories about crime gain ratings.

Sadly the introduction of Freeview in 2008 hasn't stopped this trend, in fact it seems to have been a greenlight for TVNZ to push these viewer as consumer buttons much deeper into the 6pm News hour. Two years before Freeview became available on both terrestrial and digital frequencies, in March 2006, crime made up 22% of the news and was featured 29% in the headlines, yet 2 years after Freeview crime stories in March 2010 on the 6pm News made up only 14% of the stories in that month, yet was represented a staggering 35% of the time in the headlines.

Even though news stories as a whole had slumped to 14% in March 2010 on the 6pm One News, it was represented 35% of the time in the headlines. The impact is that the shock value of crime is vastly over represented in the news headlines so the impression left with viewers is one of a mad max post apocalyptic nightmare requiring Dirty Harry to sort out.

The reason there are more white people hurting children is because more white people are impacted by poverty and the stresses that poverty creates. By constantly blaming Maori for child abuse, it ignores that real generators of domestic abuse that poverty contributes to. The casual racist presumptions that are broadcast as the everyday on the mainstream media should be endlessly challenged and never accepted.

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25 Comments:

At 24/7/11 8:40 pm, Blogger Tim said...

Interesting points. How does it look proportionately? Poverty, alcohol and drugs are colour blind, we just choose to give them a colour.

 
At 24/7/11 9:07 pm, Blogger Psycho Milt said...

Feel free to give us the more relevant per capita figure any time you like.

 
At 24/7/11 9:36 pm, Blogger Will said...

30% of kids who die from abuse, die at the hands of Maori, who make up 14.6% of the population. While 50% of kids who die from abuse, are killed by European New Zealanders , who make up 67.6% of the population (2006 census data). The stats don't lie, Maori are over represented in child abuse deaths.

 
At 24/7/11 10:21 pm, Blogger Ramai said...

I've always understood that in terms of percentages, more Maori children are being physically abused than pakeha children. i.e. - there may be more pakeha children dying in total, but Maori are disproportionately represented in these statistics, and therefore Maori have a "problem" and focus is needed in order to fix the problem. Is this not true? I'm a little worried that suddenly those people who have defended the need for government intervention that focusses on the minority (i.e. to bring about equality of outcome) which has been criticised by those who believe everyone should be treated equally (i.e. equality of opportunity) are suddenly resenting the extra attention and therefore missing the point. I'm all for treating people unequally in order to produce an equality of outcome. If Maori are disproportionately represented in statistics of child abuse, then I'm all for them receiving extra help and attention in levelling the statistics. Or am I missing the point?

 
At 24/7/11 10:28 pm, Blogger macdoctor said...

And yet, if you exclude Maori stats, the rate of child abuse in the Pakeha part of the community is the lowest in the OECD. That would strongly suggest that this IS a Maori problem, rather than a "New Zealand" one.

 
At 25/7/11 5:46 am, Blogger Bomber said...

GRIN - God I love it when right wing bigotry is challenged, we get all the right wing snakes crawling the same way don't we? The fallen one Psycho Milt from hard right hate site 'No Minister' and my favourite anti-abortion Christian fundy Dr who has all the bed side manner of a brain hungry zombie, the climate denying (because God has already flooded the world right Mac?) 'Mac Doctor'

I love watching them squirm when their unchallenged bigotry gets ankle tapped by facts.

So let's be clear shall we chums? While Maori make up 14% of the population and are reflected a staggering 30% in abuse cases making them over represented - in terms of sheer numbers, in terms of pure size, White people murder their children many times higher than Maori, and seeing as the drivers of that domestic abuse are mainly poverty related, that staggeringly large 50% of white NZers killing their own don't all have the excuse of poverty driving them.

So maybe Mac Dr is right after all folks, maybe it is something cultural inside white NZ that even minus the usual drivers of poverty, they still kill their kids at incredibly high numbers?

But that would be using the same lazy stereotypes Mac Dr and Psycho Milt have used to carve their trailblazing blogging careers wouldn't it?

The point of course is that we as a nation have a problem with violence and that with the rising number of the electorate of poverty, these abuses from the stresses of poverty are increasing and that if we are serious about the safety of our children we will reject the bullshit laziness of the mainstream media when they scream 'it's all dem maoris fault' when the next horror death is championed by them for their ratings glory.

Watching Psycho and Mac fumble like spoilt teenagers falling back on the same lies they've spun a thousand times to justify their garden variety bigotry is while deeply satisfying, is only an indication of how engrained the 'blame Maori' league has been allowed to become again in NZ thinking.

 
At 25/7/11 6:28 am, Blogger Psycho Milt said...

I take it the above diatribe means the more relevant figure won't be forthcoming.

 
At 25/7/11 7:46 am, Blogger Bomber said...

That's the best come back you've got Milt? Even I'm a little embarrassed for you, and I can't stand your hateful little blog, do you think if your real identities were connected to the hateful shit you spew on that site that it would impact on your employment prospects the way it has for Alex Fogerty once I outed him as a founding member of the anti-mmp site and as a white supremacist?

 
At 25/7/11 7:47 am, Blogger Bomber said...

I mean how many job offers would your fellow blogger 'Adolf' get if people knew his real identity?

 
At 25/7/11 8:04 am, Blogger TimS said...

Such self-serving defence doesn't help the problem - and every single kid who's a victim is a problem for us all. Surely the reality is that 80% of our population cause 50% of the total problem, while just 15% of our population cause the other 50%. I think it's perfectly appropriate to focus on the worse of the two statistics.

 
At 25/7/11 8:11 am, Blogger Bomber said...

Tim - could you provide any evidence suggesting Maori cause 50% of al child abuse?

 
At 25/7/11 9:20 am, Blogger Psycho Milt said...

"Comeback" to what? I don't have any comment to make on your opinion of my character or blog.

How about if you consider the basic error in your post rather than concentrating on your outrage at others' disagreement? Here's a hint as to what that error is: when comparing numbers for a particular event across populations of different sizes, the total numbers are meaningless (for example, China has orders of magnitude more deaths from cancer than NZ, but Monaco a lot fewer than NZ - that doesn't make the Chinese particularly cancerous or people in Monaco particularly healthy). You attended a university - did you learn nothing while you were there?

 
At 25/7/11 10:32 am, Blogger Bomber said...

"Comeback" to what? I don't have any comment to make on your opinion of my character or blog.
But it is true eh, if people knew who you actually were and associated you with the hate speech that passes as comment on your blog it would impact on your job opportunties eh? I mean having 'adolf' as your side kick doesn't help eh? But you should be held to account for your hate speech eh?

How about if you consider the basic error in your post rather than concentrating on your outrage at others' disagreement? Here's a hint as to what that error is: when comparing numbers for a particular event across populations of different sizes, the total numbers are meaningless
But I have answered your basic assumption though Milt...

So let's be clear shall we chums? While Maori make up 14% of the population and are reflected a staggering 30% in abuse cases making them over represented - in terms of sheer numbers, in terms of pure size, White people murder their children many times higher than Maori, and seeing as the drivers of that domestic abuse are mainly poverty related, that staggeringly large 50% of white NZers killing their own don't all have the excuse of poverty driving them.

Look, I think you should keep digging Milt, let's see how far your need to blame Maori for abuse stats that are dwarfed by Pakeha, don't feel ashamed or embarrased by your bigotry, show us it the way you show it on the hateful 'No Minister' site.

 
At 25/7/11 11:58 am, Blogger dave said...

Its not really about race at all. Is about those who are trapped in poverty and turning societies dysfunction in on themselves. Maori are disproportionately poor so show up with higher figures. But the 50% of kids killed by Pakehas doesnt mean that middle class or rich Pakehas kill their kids, rather that Pakeha who are living in poverty also kill their kids at a higher rate than those who don't. Fewer Pakehas live in poverty proportionately but enough of them do to kill their kids to make up half the numbers.
And remember that despite this the vast majority of those in poverty do not kill their kids.
Answer is simple really. Get rid of capitalism that breeds poverty as the price of its profits and eliminate the main cause of child murder.

 
At 25/7/11 1:11 pm, Blogger Grassroots said...

I second Daves motion. It is the inequality in our society that drives child abuse of all colours. To argue over percentages and who loves which race the most is missing the point- kiwi kids are getting hurt and sometimes killed by their own families which is totally unacceptable. Solutions to these depressing stats would be much more constructive, don't you reckon?

 
At 25/7/11 2:24 pm, Blogger CrownRetro said...

Russell Means published an article on Huffington (or Salon?) with some negative stats from his own Native American tribe- was worse than Maori. Child-abuse was amongst the stats. Horrid stuff.

Obviously her Majesty's systemic empire is fucking up all indigenous people we colonized. Mean's was saying this was the real cause, also an angry plea to control their own welfare and destiny alongside mainstream America.

Dopey thing was the replies of the con-Americans were same and worse as the con-Kiwis here, blaming the indigenous. They also tried to mob me when I replied, lol.

 
At 25/7/11 9:43 pm, Blogger Arto said...

Oh sure Maori get over-represented in these cases population-wise, but due to media coverage they are MASSIVELY over-represented while the coverage of this type of offending by WHITES is massively UNDER-reported.

So the question remains, whose interests are being served by the WHITE controlled media groups?

 
At 22/8/11 1:06 pm, Blogger cyborg_nz said...

Blogger Will said...

30% of kids who die from abuse, die at the hands of Maori, who make up 14.6% of the population. While 50% of kids who die from abuse, are killed by European New Zealanders , who make up 67.6% of the population (2006 census data). The stats don't lie, Maori are over represented in child abuse deaths.

You need to do your math
I'll make it simple numbers
1000 people
100 child deaths
14.5 % = 146 Maori @ 30% = 30 children killed
That is 1 in 4.8 Maoris killing children
67.6 % = 676 Euro's @ 50% = 50 Children killed
That is 1 in 13.5 Euro's killing children

Looks a bit different when you do the math

 
At 30/8/11 7:31 pm, Blogger al said...

it's typical of racists to use stats like this but it only goes to prove their racism.

if everyone in this country was the same race, but in all other respects things were the same, i am quite sure there would be the same number of children abused.

 
At 30/8/11 7:35 pm, Blogger al said...

typical of racists to use these stats to confirm their racism.

if all people in this country were the same race, but everything else remained the same, i'll wager we would still see the same amount of abuse.

 
At 31/8/11 11:30 am, Blogger cyborg_nz said...

I totally agree with you AL

The racist motivation behind the original writer is obvious

They presented the facts in such a manner to mean the total opposite of what they where actually saying.

My math while simplified to keep it understandable is undeniable

Because it's all percentages no matter what Population and Child deaths you put in the ratio difference Maori and Euro's will remain the same (Maori 2.81 times more likely then Euro's)

 
At 31/8/11 11:47 am, Blogger Bomber said...

not really cyborg, i think the racism is on the myopic attention given to Maori so that it perceived in the media as a 'maori problem' when it is in fact pakeha who kill in total numbers many more of their own children.

 
At 31/8/11 1:15 pm, Blogger cyborg_nz said...

Bomber the problem with your statement is that by natural mathematical progression if Maori where 67.6% of the population they would be responsible for more then 50% of the cases since at 14.5% of the population they are responsible for 30%

14.6% of the population responsible for 30% of the cases

67.6% of the population responsible for 50% of the cases

This is not a myopic point of view but a clear cultural trend that the FACTS support

 
At 20/7/13 4:47 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Maori are 14 percent of the population and responsible for 50 percent of murders, and murder is a male crime then actually 7 percent of the population are responsible for 50 percent of murders, Maori men.

 
At 4/11/13 6:38 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Such bizzare comments. Bomber's tirade and attack on character is why some people, me included, stay annon. Because people like Bomber tend to play the man not the ball.

Fact, maori are over represented on almost every negative crime statistic. Fact, this is a new Zealand problem.

Bomber, your conclusions are flawed and your abusive tirades, regardless of what you think of other bloggers, make you look like a total plonker with a chip on your block and your message is lost.

 

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