Anti-MMP campaign yawns to a start
The Anti-MMP lobby have launched and dear Uncle Bob Harvey is leading the charge to return to a system of voting that cements the powerful back into place by relegating the proportional element of the vote as a winners bonus rather than a genuine representation of the people's will. That's ugly because it's a pretense at representation rather than real representation.
Uncle Bob is a well loved liberal lefty and him fronting this charge backwards to the dinosaur age where Parliament was made up mostly of white, straight, rich, old men is a boon for the forces of evil, it's like when Anakin becomes Darth Vader but with much less marijuana and wine involved.
And here is the problem brothers and sisters, i believe that our beloved Bob Harvey may not be getting his regular supply of everyone favorite class C drug, marijuana. What else could explain his up tight anal approach to something as important as our electoral system. I implore growers from around the country, let's chill Bpb Harvey out, it's an emergency.
Please send all you can spare to Change Society Incorporated, Level 3, 2 Woodward Street, Wellington attention Bob Harvey.
posted by Bomber @ 11:29 am
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The most common whinge from FPP supporters, yearning for Yesteryear; “There was more certainty/stability in government under FPP”
Yeah. Nah, that’s bollocks.
In 1978 and 1981, Labour won more votes than National did. But because of the weird way that FPP operates, National ended up getting back into power. Ok, this probably suits some of you people – but I’m guessing there’d be a lot of gnashing of teeth and mouth-frothing if it was the other way around.
Some details here:
1978: http://tinyurl.com/yl2jdam
1981: http://tinyurl.com/3rw6ny5
As for ““Vote for Change wants a system that restores more certainty, that allows voters to easily hold governments to account and kick rascals out of Parliament””
Who the f**k are the “rascals”? If you’re a leftie, it’s Don Brash. If you’re a rightie, it’s [insert name here]. That’s meaningless drivel. In effect, it’s catering to the lowest common denominator and pandering to mindless emotionalism. It’s like “I dislike XYZ, so I’m going to bring in a system that keeps XYZ out of Parliament”?
The Russians did that. Nice little experiment called communism. Killed a few tens of millions of people. Wrecked an economy. Put thousands into Gulag camps. Brought the world to the brink of WW III. But by golly, at least it kept XYZ out of Parliament!! And you can’t say the commies weren’t strong on government!!
At least with MMP, if you’re a rightie living in, say, South Dunedin, your vote still counts.
Under FPP, if you’re a National supporter living in South Dunedin – don’t bother voting. You’re wasting your time.
STV seems to the “The Great White Hope” of some of you lot. Well, think again, chums. Under STV, the four main parties will most likely be National, Labour Greens, and Maori Party/Mana Party. You might get one or two independents in.
Don’t believe me? Check out the Aussies – they have STV. http://tinyurl.com/3k7efy5
Oh, and their Federal Parliament isn’t much “better” than ours in terms of a plethora of parties.
What’s left? FPP?
Yeah, right. The system that allowed Rob Muldoon to govern this country almost single-handedly for nine years? Till he ran it into the ground and we had to go to the IMF for a bailout?
Of course, FPP won’t get rid of the smaller parties. They’ll just fade away and join the Big Two. (Just as ACT mps Douglas and Prebble were once upon a time members of Labour.) Which will be good for Labour, as quite a few Greens will re-join that party. I’m not sure, though, if National will look forward to ACT members joining up.
SM?
What the f**k is SM? (Aside from something that sounds kinky and would probably cost me $150 from a local lady down the street…)
Ok, it’s a bastardised version of FPP. I get that.
So will the voting public. Most of them are not thick and will spot a political con when they see it. Which is why SM got only 5.5% of the vote in 1993.
My money is on MMP returning. Most people are fairly comfortable with it. Most folk either remember FPP and Muldoonism, and their stomach heaves a bit – or are too young to remember and would probably see FPP as some wanky system that makes little sense in terms of fairness. And people aren’t interested in changing to STV – a system that relies on Quantum Physics to understand it’s workings – and would still piss off you righties because the Greens would STILL win seats in Parliament. SM? Forget it.
My money is on returning MMP; ironing out a few anomalies at a Review; and moving on.
As for “Vote for Change”… here guys, I’ve got $1.20 in coins. Go buy an ice block. Come back to us when you’re all growed up and can play with the adults in the parliamentary pen.
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