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Friday, September 24, 2010

NZ economic 'recovery' stalls - Christmas 2010 will be grim


For the love of god, THERE IS NO RECOVERY. This is 1932. In 1929 the stock market collapsed, it took until 1934 for the full impact to be felt in the economy, we are going through the exact same 'correction' now. Yesterdays shocking revelation that we didn't grow.7% and in fact almost stalled at .2% should be a hard kick in the head of reality, the 40 year bubble that has been allowed to grow in the deregulated financial market courtesy of Milton Friedmans neoliberal philosophy has popped. In the 1970s the real economy and the financial economy were valued evenly, now after 40 years of neoliberal deregulation and moving away from Keynesian economic theory, the real economy was valued at $8 trillion, the Financial economy was valued at $330 trillion. Apparently a growth uber alles economic approach fuelled by consumer consumption of plasma TVs, SUVs and cosmetic surgery all on the credit card wasn't sustainable.

Who woulda thunk it...

English says tax package will help after GDP shock
New Zealand's economic growth hit the brakes in the second quarter, falling short of expectations, and supporting the Reserve Bank's decision to pause in tightening interest rates. The kiwi dollar tumbled.

Gross domestic product expanded 0.2 per cent in the three months ended June 30, according to Statistics New Zealand, a quarter of the 0.8 per cent pace predicted by a Reuters survey of economists and the 0.9 per cent forecast from the Reserve Bank.


The neoliberal social reforms in the 1990's by National helped cripple the NZ labour market and doom it to the low wage economy we suffer from now, Labour's tenure in office replaced that poverty with debt and now we have debt AND poverty under National with less public services to cope with.

That all our financial guru's missed the fact we almost stalled rather than grew reminds us these people are out of their depth in terms of experience, NZ hasn't suffered a crises of capitalism since 1929, their models, their formulas, their tried and tested truths are all dead.

The basic dynamics of capitalism demand a 'correction' and when the real economy is valued at $8 trillion and the financial economy is valued at $330 trillion that 'correction' has a long way to go yet...

IMF fears 'social explosion' from world jobs crisis
America and Europe face the worst jobs crisis since the 1930s and risk "an explosion of social unrest" unless they tread carefully, the International Monetary Fund has warned.
"The labour market is in dire straits. The Great Recession has left behind a waste land of unemployment," said Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the IMF's chief, at an Oslo jobs summit with the International Labour Federation (ILO).

He said a double-dip recession remains unlikely but stressed that the world has not yet escaped a deeper social crisis. He called it a grave error to think the West was safe again after teetering so close to the abyss last year. "We are not safe," he said.

A joint IMF-ILO report said 30m jobs had been lost since the crisis, three quarters in richer economies. Global unemployment has reached 210m. "The Great Recession has left gaping wounds. High and long-lasting unemployment represents a risk to the stability of existing democracies," it said.


The poor are hurting, the TV keeps flashing them shiny things they can't buy and when the October 1st GST tax rise which is funding a tax cut that the Merchant Banker Prime Minister and his Sam Morgan mates will benefit most from come into effect that anger will only build as we see more desperately needed public services slashed.

This is 1932.

19 Comments:

At 24/9/10 7:50 am, Anonymous Relic said...

The trick is to turn “social unrest” into a widely supported popular eradication of capitalist scale private ownership and finance capital. Uprising time.

Yes, the politics that dare not speak it’s name-socialism! The fat cats ain’t going to hand over their control and dosh voluntarily. Nice labour governments never fully achieve their holy grail of getting capitalists to behave reasonably, so what is left-a bleak futurist/corporist/fascist future or the majority of non captialists having a go at running the joint?

 
At 24/9/10 7:54 am, Anonymous NZ tea party said...

Nevermind that the new deal prolonged the recession, but why dont you be honest with your agenda.

Progessives like Bomber want the system to collapse. Bomber has advocated taking on more debt, much like the US has done. The US debt is now estimated by one economist to be $202 trillion. Most of this debt has come under Obama.

So why would Bomber and Obama want to collapse the system?

They want to replace the free market systemm with one of global governance. They want a system run by elites to have the power. Thats what global warming is about - power.

Why?

Because they want a global redistribution of wealth. They want to take from the rich and give to the poor.

Dont believe me?

Why did Obama cancel drilling in the gulf of mexico, but at the same time lend mexico $1billion for them to do the same drilling. So its not about the environment, it is about redistribution.

Bomber does not believe in democracy, or the free market solutions that will get us out of this mess. 69% of americans believe that lower taxes will great growth and with it jobs. This is not the progressive agenda.

 
At 24/9/10 8:16 am, Blogger Bomber said...

Tea Party NZ thank you so much for my Friday laugh, I will be chuckling over this all weekend.

Genius, watch out for the War on News next week, I'm going to start mocking the NZ Tea Party movement, I think you are hilarious.

 
At 24/9/10 8:48 am, Anonymous NZ tea party said...

You liberal elites may mock us, but the power of ideas will win sir. Why do you think the tide is going to turn in the midterms?

 
At 24/9/10 9:03 am, Blogger Bomber said...

You liberal elites may mock us, but the power of ideas will win sir. Why do you think the tide is going to turn in the midterms?

Oh. My. God. You are the gift that keeps giving princess. Why are you nutbar friends winning? Because the Republican Party has always had a problem with their fringe religious right dominating policy and this is the latest internal meltdown. You think Christine O'Donnell' will get elected by mainstream America? BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What will attract them? Her claim that scientists have created a hybrid mouse human with the brain power of a human NZ Tea Party? Will it be her anti-masturbation campaign NZ Tea Party or will it be her first witchcraft date? You are a joke looking for a punchline mate.

This global meltdown was caused by your neoliberal agenda run amok, caused under Bush's Presidency no less, Obama is simply trying to wipe up the mess of this meltdown caused by unregulated corporate greed. Your inability to grasp these facts doesn't make me a 'liberal elite' it just makes you hilariously ignorant.

 
At 24/9/10 9:26 am, Anonymous Gosman said...

Whether or not you regard the US Tea party movement as being funny or not there is a very good likelyhood that the Republican Party will take control of the House of Representatives and possibly even the Senate. That would be a rather large blow to Obama's legislative programme.

 
At 24/9/10 9:39 am, Blogger Bomber said...

And what will attract none fundy tea party members most about Christine O'Donnell Gosman? Her claim that scientists have created a hybrid mouse human with the brain power of a human? Will it be her anti-masturbation campaign or will it be her first witchcraft date?

 
At 24/9/10 9:40 am, Anonymous Pascal's bookie said...

Geez bomber, you get all the best trolls.

Love how the damn global elites are going to fuck everyone by taking the money from the elite and handing it out to the plebs.

Curse them and their greedy quest for greediness!!

 
At 24/9/10 10:56 am, Anonymous Gosman said...

The reality is that there is a good chance that there will be a change in the balance of power in the US Congress come November.

Whether or not Christine O'Donnell has a chance of winning is irrelevant beyond making the chance of the GOP taking the Senate as well as the House more unlikely (which it was already a difficut proposition given the Senate seats up for election this time around).

Obama will in all probabiliity have to deal with a hostile legislature for the remainder of his term in office. This will further constrain his policy making ability.

 
At 24/9/10 11:21 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NZ Tea Party, if you want a free market then you will have to abolish marketing and regulate complicated pricing plans for services (like telecommunication) as they interfere with market forces.

The free market can not exist as it is a company's prerogative to interfere with market forces leading to an inefficiency in distribution.

Put simply, advertising seeks to sell lower quality goods at higher prices by creating demand from image or persuasion. This is an inefficient distribution and is detrimental to society from a pure economic view.

 
At 24/9/10 12:14 pm, Anonymous AAMC said...

http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/the_wsj_is_good_on_middleclass.php

http://robertreich.org/post/805148061

I think perhaps Bombers Trolls take hallucinogenics in their tea in the morning.

Gosman, it's getting harder to call don't you think? Yes if we listen to the polls or Fox News we could be forgiven for agreeing with you about the Midterms, but The Tea Party are surely undermining that for the Republicans. I wouldn't want to call it, you're a brave man.

And to remind us why we should be terrified of the potential of Gosman being right...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg&feature=player_embedded#!

 
At 24/9/10 4:26 pm, Anonymous NZ tea party said...

Bomber has never denied the accusation that he wants the system to collapse. Not having a private sector job, he doesnt understand that most ordinary kiwis want government out of their lives.

I want everyone to reach their potential. For that to happen, we need government out of our lives. Has welfarism improved the lives of the poorest NZers? No! What it has done is made them slaves to the state.

 
At 24/9/10 5:58 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

LMAO @ NZ TEA PARTY - I don't have to 'deny accusations that I want the system to collapse' because I've NEVER claimed I want the system to collapse. I don't want to see the worst elements of the Depression vomited up onto my fellow human beings, I'm pointing out the very mechanics of capitalism will dictate that and when we had this happen last time we required Keynesian managed capitalism NOT the free market neoliberal deregulated low tax Milton Friedman inspired Chicago school of economics that led us into this mess.

Your utter inability to understand capitalism is the joke here NZ tea party, you are as out of your depth as Christine O'Donnell.

BTW - Claiming I haven't worked in the private sector (or that I currently don't work in the private sector) is the funniest lie I've ever come across.

 
At 24/9/10 7:58 pm, Anonymous NZ tea party said...

But the new deal/keynesian economics prolonged the great depression. Why do you advocate policies that will prolong this crisis?

Christine O'Donnell is running against a Marxist. Do you support Marxism, or do you believe in freedom?

 
At 24/9/10 8:48 pm, Anonymous AAMC said...

Hey NZ Tea Party, can I suggest you study the last 50yrs a little more closely and take a look at Regan and Thatcher and Blair and Bush and all of the policy they delivered the world and the effects these have had. Have you had a decent look at what this system you're endorsing has delivered the Americans? A total stagnation of infrastructure to the point the are verging on 3rd world conditions, a bloated and increasingly powerful Pentagon, homelessness, the highest rate of incarceration, mass gun ownership. Your dreaming!!

 
At 24/9/10 9:12 pm, Anonymous AAMC said...

NZ Tea Party Something else for you to read from inside America and not from Fox News. Dare you to read it! And the others posted earlier. I want to hear your analysis of these writers rather than your slogans. Go on!

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175299/tomgram%3A_dilip_hiro%2C_the_waning_of_america/#more

 
At 25/9/10 12:43 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

But the new deal/keynesian economics prolonged the great depression. Why do you advocate policies that will prolong this crisis?

Christine O'Donnell is running against a Marxist. Do you support Marxism, or do you believe in freedom?

I'm sorry Tea Party, what happened to your claim that I don't work in the private sector?

 
At 26/9/10 1:28 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Your utter inability to understand capitalism is the joke here NZ tea party, you are as out of your depth as Christine O'Donnell."

I suspect the boom-bust dynamic of capitalism is something you understand very well Bomber after presiding of the bankruptcy of ALT TV.

 
At 26/9/10 10:24 am, Blogger Bomber said...

I suspect the boom-bust dynamic of capitalism is something you understand very well Bomber after presiding of the bankruptcy of ALT TV.

Silly, silly, silly, silly, silly, silly, silly, silly, silly Anon. I didn't preside over the bankruptcy of Alt Tv, that would be your friends the 4 owners who were Oliver Driver, Thane Kirby, Ricky Newby and David Kennedy - who hilariously is now running the Mt Eden Park development. I was the Programme Director at Alt Tv, and Alt Tv's ratings were amazing, it was the poor management by the owners (I can post John Drinnan's feature article on the Auditors report up again if you would like, I LOVE any opportunity to post that up at any given chance silly anon).

Silly anon is wrong about so much re Alt, but thank you for letting me point out how wrong you are silly anon.

Did you hear Mediawatch today on Radio NZ anon? They were very positive about my new show Citizen A, you should try and catch it.

 

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