The Nation and Q+A review
Ratings last week: 300 000 for The Nation, 330 000 for Q+A - the Earthquake coverage forced both networks to lift their game and that The Nation got so close to Q+A would have dented TVNZ's joy at 2million viewers the day earlier. Incredible result for The Nation.
The Nation
The show is all about the cost of the Earthquake, Duncan has Bill English on to explain the cost. The silver lining theory that the mini boom in Christchurch will 'help' in some way seems very bloody thin. While construction and cash from insurance will flood Christchurch, the small and medium sized business may simply not be there in time to benefit from this razor thin silver lining.
Seeing as John Key was champing at the bit to fly out on Friday to see the Queen (a decision he U-turned on Tuesday) the plan to save Christchurch by having Gerry Brownlee there seems to be more an after thought.
The scale of damage still seems to be beyond recognition, and this is the real danger, so far the Government have simply been lucky that the competence of local response and the strength of Christchurch residents has carried the city so far, but as this drags on people will start hurting and they will start complaining. Loudly. Key's desire to fly off and feed the corgies and his late decision to change that will stand out a lot more clearly if angry residents without aid start filling news headlines.
Sean is announcing an hour long Super City debate, that should be interesting.
Back to the Earthquake - the scientist is on and he says he doesn't expect an aftershock of 6.1, that's reassuring, but he isn't sure what is happening on this 16 000 year fault line, that's not reassuring.
A panel discussion with historians, architects and local identities are on - pointing out the destruction to the central city won't take long to repair, there is a pride in the fact most of the new buildings were strong enough to with stand the earthquake, the problem seems to be with the residential property sector.
Excellent piece on why Auckland has allowed the St James to be bought by a property developer who is waiting for the St James to collapse so he can demolish it. Even though it has the highest protection order, the land developer can just allow the building to rot before going ahead with his plans to build a filthy dirty great big apartment block on the space.
Auckland is ugly and has toothless protection that allows filthy property
John Banks has nothing to add on the issue, just shallow platitudes.
q+a
On the panel we have Dr Jon Johansson, Climate denying Federated Farmers President Don Nicolson and Rob Fenwick, from the NZ Business Council for Sustainable Development.
@ Bloggerheads are the brilliant Gareth Renowden of Hot Topic and the awful climate denying fundy God complex of Jim 'Ian Wishart' McVeagh from MacDoctor. Why someone as fringe as MacDr is allowed on to spread his climate denial is a disappointment, but exposing his climate denial madness helps on some level I'm sure.
Earthquake smokescreen for John Key to slip off to Tea with the Queen, Gerry Brownlee, is on to explain what it is he does.
Lord Stern is on in an exclusive TV interview and this should really freak out climate deniers like Whaleoil, Cactus Kate, Not PC, No Minister, Kiwiblogh and that awful MacDr.
What is being done for those who are most hurt by the Earthquake? Gerry is on explaining things. Some parts of the city badly damaged, 2500 people with houses that can't be occupied, he dodges the issue about the uninsured - this will be a tricky issue in the face of the Mr Magoo bail out, Gerry knows that.
The interview between Holmes and Brownlee is bloody frosty and aggressive, Gerry is throwing punches at the media, Holmes is throwing punches at Gerry - it's surprisingly angry and I'm not sure that's the tone that needs to be set for this crises.
Gerry did a good job of defending his position.
Dr Jon Johansson on the panel does the business on the issue of pointing out how the Government will get judged here between the uninsured poor and the bail out of SCF. No Moral Hazard for Mr Magoo, but suddenly there is a moral hazard for the uninsured, this won't wash in the months ahead.
Fundy Christian blogger MacDr is on spreading his climate denial lies while Gareth from Hot Topic points out that the greatest climate denier of them all has now changed his tune on climate change.
The undisputed genius of Lord Stern is on making Dr Mac out to be the fool he is and points out climate change is happening and it is happening because of man made pollution. I love watching him land body blow after body blow into the climate deniers as he points out the dangers to our species global warming will cause. Where is climate denier Cactus Kate and Jim Anderton fraudster Whaleoil? Where are those hate speech No Minister bloggers, that awful climate denier David Farrar from Kiwiblogh, that delusional Un PC and to a much lesser degree in influence fundy god complex Dr Mac while this interview is on dismantling their dreadful climate denying lies?
Why can't we get close ups of their faces while Lord Stern destroys their climate denial lies? Why? Wouldn't that be great TV? Watching David Farrar squirm over his climate denial lies? Wouldn't that be fun? To see the liars hauled over the coals for their filthy climate denial lies? I want to see that awful Barnsly Bill from right wing hate site No Minister made to choke on his climate denial lies.
It is good to see the mainstream media finally accepting the science behind climate change, pity they are still giving the climate deniers any platform to lie from.
The fact is that global warming is happening and that it is happening because of man made pollution, the intellectual climate denial resistance isn't based on science, it is based on culture, these climate deniers can not admit they were wrong and that the environmental movement was right, they need to be shown the contempt they are due and the rest of us need to move on and force the political changes needed to combat climate change.
Let's remember some of those lies the climate deniers have spun shall we, just in case the deniers try to wriggle away from their previous claims that man made pollution wasn't causing climate change...
Poneke climate denial deserves contempt
Kiwiblog 6 - 7 metres: Yeah — I know.
La-la Land again: Jim Hopkins gets it wrong
A visitor from La-la Land: Garth George gets it wrong (again)
Egg/face interface for Hide and the climate cranks
Herald censures IPCC on flimsy grounds
Dominion Post editorial as shaky as Herald’s
posted by Bomber @ 7:50 am
9 comments
9 Comments:
Hi Martyn, climate change has become the hippest single environmental issue in the last few years. In my 'Book' an overpopulating world that has an ecological footprint that can stomp mmm itself, climate change is just 1 'challenge'. When you put that to the CC-deniers you usually get an interesting rant that exposes'em for the ostriches-with-head-in-sand they are.
Keep up the good work! cheers Pim
hahaha I wish could have seen Lord Stern give it to those schmucks!
oh God are you still banging on about the AGW fraud? Its over...you and your fellow fraudsters have been sprung.Falsifying the records isn't nessessary when you have facts on your side buddy.
So last year dude.....
Hmmm must have been watching a different interview.
Stern came across as shallow and opinionated with nothing more that the same worn out claptrap unsupported pseudo-examples of why we should all panic and flee into the arms of Al Gore's money scam.
His twists and turns each time he was challenged was painful to watch
Goodness, Martyn, I can almost hear you drooling when you talk about Lord Stern...
I stand by my comment to Tim Watkin that he was a chicken to have me doing the bloggerheads bit. Ian Wishart or Poneke would have been more entertaining. I note that there wasn't a single real climate scientist invited on the program. Someone who could call bullshit on Stern's absurd contention that global warming skeptics are all ignorant non-scientists who make elementary errors in their conclusions.
Frankly, I thought the man was an arrogant ass.
Not surprised you liked him, Bomber...
As a libertainish person I have always thought the libertarian/Not PC response to climate change was wrong.
Their response should have been to put forward libertarian solutions, not to deny it is happening.
oh God are you still banging on about the AGW fraud? Its over...you and your fellow fraudsters have been sprung.Falsifying the records isn't nessessary when you have facts on your side buddy.
So last year dude.....
No 'dude' it appears that your climate denial is what is so last year. None of the science was in dispute after the review of the climategate emails - you are wrong and embarrassingly so.
Hmmm must have been watching a different interview.
No David, we both saw the same interview, you are just trying to lessen the beating you climate deniers just took.
Global warming is happening kids, and man made pollution is the reason, you all took a bad beating today, I understand it hurts, but you need to stop embarrassing yourselves and leave the field of battle now, it's over, you guys lost. Don't drag it out like that awful Dr Mac.
Goodness, Martyn, I can almost hear you drooling when you talk about Lord Stern...
Watching you get pasted and your climate denial shattered was certainly arousing Dr Ian. You fundy types should stick to arguments against evolution, climate denial is just not your bag.
I stand by my comment to Tim Watkin that he was a chicken to have me doing the bloggerheads bit. Ian Wishart or Poneke would have been more entertaining.
You attack and blame TVNZ for the parameters of the debate? That TVNZ let you on at all is the issue, but you bitch about the great Tim Watkin? I didn't bitch about going up against Farrar, I just got on with the job of putting my case. I think it's weak of you to attack TVNZ because you couldn't articulate a rational point. A poor workman blames the tools.
I note that there wasn't a single real climate scientist invited on the program. Someone who could call bullshit on Stern's absurd contention that global warming skeptics are all ignorant non-scientists who make elementary errors in their conclusions.
Oh for the love of God, you are embarrassing yourself now Dr Ian, I note that there was a bloody journalist, one of the best our country has, Guyon Espiner, interviewing Stern, IF climate change is the great hoax that you make out, why wouldn't Guyon seize global news headlines by exposing it? Paris Hiltons claim she thought the coke was chewing gum is more believable than you on this Doc.
Frankly, I thought the man was an arrogant ass.
Not surprised you liked him, Bomber...
Oh Dr Ian, you little bitch you. Who said fundy Christian scientists don't have a god complex?
Global warming is happening Dr Ian, and it is being caused by man made pollution. You have done enough damage to the rational debate, you should excuse yourself from the debate and reflect on how fringe you have become within that debate.
I said good day sir.
Dr Ian, I am simply not going to post your last slanderous comment about Tim Watkin and the conspiracy you claim TVNZ supposedly perpetrated for Lord Stern - it is beneath you to even make the assertion.
Ugly Dr Mac, very ugly.
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