HONE PAY THE BLOODY MONEY BACK!
Pay it back, Harawira told
Embattled Maori Party MP Hone Harawira has been told to pay back some of the taxpayer money he spent on his trip to Brussels and Paris. Speaker Lockwood Smith said last night that he had written to Mr Harawira asking him to confirm formally that he had taken an unscheduled day's leave for private purposes during his parliamentary trip to Brussels. If he had, Dr Smith expected a recovery of costs.
You owe $1100 bucks, pay it back. “I’ve been to paradise, but I’ve never been to me”, is not a defense for traipsing off to Paris – you paid your partners fare, and that’s where you differ from Rodney, but now you have to pay the money back for your sickie.
The racism is a different issue, I thought Buddy had made the first reference to white mofos, but it was Hone straight off the cuff (I've posted the whole email below), meaning it's even more offensive. Hone wasn't simply making reference to the aforementioned beige MILFs he was actually initiating the racial slur. Ugh, I thought he was attacking like with like. A technicality sure, but one that stood when you consider that Minister John Carter once famously rang John Banks live on air and pretended to be 'Hone da maaaari'. That said, I still think the high horse some from National are climbing onto is a little too high and I’m not sure if historical fact regarding white mofos raping the land and ripping Maori off can be considered racist.
As for Phil Goff. Look Phil has rightfully pointed out that Hone can’t use white mofos to defend his trip to Paris, but Goff has to balance this line carefully. I imagine Labour have calculated that attacking Hone works because National can’t defend Hone, but seeing as Labour did in fact implement the worst land confiscation ever it’s a line Phil has to balance. That said, Phil is getting traction on this issue.
What’s worse Hone is that your bullshit trip has given every talkhate radio listening gimp the pompous self importance to now argue that it’s okay for then to call Maori black mofos. As if you wanted to give them anymore ridiculous self justification.
Pay the money back Hone.
PS - If you are going to attack Phil Goff, do it for good reasons, attack Labour for voting through the new DNA powers that will be used disproportionately against Maori and the new drug driving tests that will do the same.
PPS - Goff's performance on Breakfast this morning was his most powerful to date. His position on Hone makes Key's look very weak.
UPDATE: I was wrong - Buddy REPLIED to the email and mentioned white mofos - here are the entire emails between the two of them....
From: Buddy Mikaere [mailto:buddy@manataiao.com]
RE: Ae Marika - 03 November 2009 - Hone Harawira MP Te Tai Tokerau
Fyi – a recent exchange I had with a particularly arrogant politician…
From: Buddy Mikaere [mailto:buddy@manataiao.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 5:39 a.m.
To: 'hone@tehiku.co.nz'
Cc: 'Helen.hendren@xtra.co.nz'
Subject: RE: Ae Marika - 03 November 2009 - Hone Harawira MP Te Tai Tokerau
…but furthermore, I work just as bloody hard as you do to support not only my wider whanau but also the system where tax payers like me pay nearly 40% of our daily bread – more if you take into account gst and all the other little add-ons - so that you and your missus can maintain your personal relationship swanking around the world looking at white man icons in Paris – well gee whizz - in that respect brother you’re no better than that wanker Rodney Hyde and the white mofos you complain about…and get off your moral high horse while you’re at it – nobody forced you to be an MP
Buddy Mikaere
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PO Box 31178
Milford
North Shore City AUCKLAND 0741
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From: Hone Harawira [mailto:hone@tehiku.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2009 10:38 p.m.
To: buddy@manataiao.com
Subject: FW: Ae Marika - 03 November 2009 - Hone Harawira MP Te Tai Tokerau
Gee Buddy, do you believe that white man bullshit too do you?
White motherfuckers have been raping our lands and ripping us off for centuries, and all of a sudden you want me to play along with their puritanical bullshit.
I don't often respond to comments like this, but I will to you.
I put in shit loads of hours and bucketloads of energy in my commitment to advancing Maori, and I am happy to put my body, my freedom, and my personal credibility on the line for that cause.
And I don't do it because of the salary, or the political position I hold, or for any other reason than that I believe in fighting for Maori rights and I love doing what I do.
As far as my wife is concerned - I don't know what your relationship is with whomever, but my wife is my partner, my adviser, my critic, and my best friend, and she has marched with me, fought alongside me, suffered the hard times with me and stood by me for more than 35 years, so if I get the chance to take her with me as part of my role as an MP I will.
And quite frankly I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks about it.
OK?
Hone
PS and if you want to take this to the press, go right ahead. I answer to my people, not to them or to anybody else.
From: Buddy Mikaere [mailto:buddy@manataiao.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2009 8:54 p.m.
To: Raewyn Harrison
Subject: RE: Ae Marika - 03 November 2009 - Hone Harawira MP Te Tai Tokerau
Gotta ask the question eh? Who’s paying for Hilda?
posted by Bomber @ 7:07 am
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8 Comments:
I cant agree. I cant see how Hone has been treated any differently to Rodney.....
Why is it when a Maori MP does wrong any attempt to find answers, get apologies is cast as "pakeha being racist"!? ...there has only been one racist in this argument and its Hone!
Hone shoots his mouth off so why should it be any different for Goff to comment??? or is that being racist?
Why is it when a Maori MP does wrong any attempt to find answers, get apologies is cast as "pakeha being racist"!?
I agree that's bullshit, and Goff is on mark when he pulls it back to paying for Paris.
Hone shoots his mouth off so why should it be any different for Goff to comment??? or is that being racist?
No, what it does if Goff deviates from criticizing Paris is open Goff up for a counter attack, if we are talking about ripping off Maori, there's a certain confiscation of foreshore and seabed that can be thrown back in Phil's face isn't there?
Goff can play this very well, as his performance on Breakfast this morning showed. He has to come across as a unifier in all of this, to be above the mud slinging. otherwise he gets into a fight about Maori getting ripped off by his Party. That could be the point of course, there is a lot of working class grudge at Maoridom in general and waving a stick is a cheap lazy way of winning back that vote.
The National Party spin team must've choked when Phil mentioned political correctness on Breakfast. That's their dog whistle, not his.
Goff can do the principled anger over this because Hone used such language. It's a side of him NZers need to see more of because I think they like that in Goff.
Phil's position certainly leaves Key's looking fake, and I think that surprises people as well.
I thought buddys original email was just asking if Hone took his wife, Hone then replyed with his raving racist loony rant about the white mofos etc..
Someone else has already made this point but I've got to agree..if another MP, lets say someone equally divisive like David Garrett was responding to an e-mail and dropping "N Bombs" throughout it just because a constituent 'set the tone of the e-mail by doing so first' there would quite rightly be outrage.
As you've said its a very "technical" argument to make and one I don't think really washes. Its to be expected that people will now make the 'well now we can make use black mofos with immunity" argument, which is why I think Joris de Bres has done his position a lot of harm (still can't fathom the stupidity of his stance???!!) He should have left it as "Racisms Bad Mmmkay" not "some racism is bad." Archbishop Desmond Tutu showed the way here (and lost a few friends) by being fair handed in abhorring racism and criminality from both 'sides' at the Truth and Reconciliation Commission...one would have hoped given his background in activism against Apartheid De Bres might have picked up a few lessons on the way..sadly not it seems.
Regarding Buddy Mikaere and the lack of outrage...who cares about him or what he thinks...no one...he isn't an elected public servant who wagged class whilst overseas. His views are regrettable for sure, but he was right to pull Hone up on that original point, and Hone was wrong to continue the sorry tone of the original e-mail. Surely you have a more recent example to rest you case on than bringing up Banks and Carter...about what decade and a half ago..?? That's the sort of thing you'd expect to hear in a divorce court!
We've had Hone's "apology"...step two is him paying back the money as has rightly been called. Fair cop to him, at least he paid for his wife's ticket unlike Rodney, but he's got to make things right at his end.
Lastly though, how do we go about disciplining an elected official who goes walkies when he should be doing workies?? I didn't think he'd be gone by time as the last thing The Maori Party wants is a further splintering of the Maori Vote (and the subsequent loss of its seat to Harawira if he was to walk)...although Labour might love that as it would make it all the trickier for The Nats to govern after the next election.
I thought buddys original email was just asking if Hone took his wife, Hone then replyed with his raving racist loony rant about the white mofos etc..
No, Buddy said, "You're as bad as those white mofo's you attack", Hone picked it up from there.
Someone else has already made this point but I've got to agree..if another MP, lets say someone equally divisive like David Garrett was responding to an e-mail and dropping "N Bombs" throughout it just because a constituent 'set the tone of the e-mail by doing so first' there would quite rightly be outrage.
There is outrage, you haven't tuned into talkback? Oh you mean there isn't outrage from me? Yes well, I skipped the 'It isn't fair white people can't use nigger the way black people can' Race Wars 101 class sometime ago.
Its to be expected that people will now make the 'well now we can make use black mofos with immunity" argument,
Only those that already thought that and want to justify their racism Jr.
which is why I think Joris de Bres has done his position a lot of harm (still can't fathom the stupidity of his stance???!!) He should have left it as "Racisms Bad Mmmkay" not "some racism is bad."
I think his comments on Breakfast this morning were interesting.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu showed the way here (and lost a few friends) by being fair handed in abhorring racism and criminality from both 'sides' at the Truth and Reconciliation Commission...one would have hoped given his background in activism against Apartheid De Bres might have picked up a few lessons on the way..sadly not it seems.
Comparing De Bres against Archbishop Tutu and failing De Bres? We are talking about Hone writing white motherfuckers in an email Jr, not a race based oppressive political system that murdered thousands upon thousands and enslaved a majority of the population of South Africa.
Regarding Buddy Mikaere and the lack of outrage...who cares about him or what he thinks...no one...he isn't an elected public servant who wagged class whilst overseas. His views are regrettable for sure, but he was right to pull Hone up on that original point, and Hone was wrong to continue the sorry tone of the original e-mail.
The lack of outrage shows that the anger is selective and aimed at Hone, he's an easy target. No one likes the angry brown guy who points out historical injustice, if the offence was really aimed at racism, then hearing Buddy use it should carry at least some outrage, but it doesn't, because it's a great chance to wallow around in the 'we is offended at the racism' mudhole. Buddy is 100% right to attack Hone about the Paris trip.
Surely you have a more recent example to rest you case on than bringing up Banks and Carter...about what decade and a half ago..?? That's the sort of thing you'd expect to hear in a divorce court!
And my point was, and where are Carter and Banks now?
We've had Hone's "apology"...step two is him paying back the money as has rightly been called. Fair cop to him, at least he paid for his wife's ticket unlike Rodney, but he's got to make things right at his end.
I agree with you 100% here - he has no excuse but to pay it back.
I think what this fiasco shows is the deep stress within the Maori Party. Like the Greens, the Maori Party were set up by activists. The Greens have had their night of the long green knives and culled any radicals left amongst them to have a more voter friendly front. The Maori Party and their deal with the Nats has been a harder game to play and Hone's rebellion over all of this has ruptured into this ugly blister.
Labour can either woo disillusioned Maori voters back or woo working class grudge back, they can't do both on this track.
Come on Bomber, re the De Bres and Tutu comparison, you're smart enough to get the point I'm trying to make.
Your "pick a quote" and "mis-read it" gag can get a bit tiresome.
I was talking about the even handed treatment of racism..Its obvious that the two examples chosen are a vast different ends of the scale, but that if anything reinforces the argument, if an anti-Apartheid activist like Tutu can address all racism and criminality (even that taken at times against racists) with the same hard stance why can't De Bres?
I don't expect anyone with half a brain to be racist as it is, so don't be suprised by Talkback's current rage. I do believe De Bres would be investigating the aforementioned hypothetical "N-Bomb" laiden Garrett e-mail. This doesn't justify people taking the childish Race Wars 101 tack...but you know that's going to be the result...possibly even deliberately to show up the hypocrisy of the De Bres' stance (much like Rodney did with the 'my yellow jacket' rubbish pre-election.)
IMHO De Bres has damaged his ability to take anyone to task in future...but I didn't hear his comments on Breakfast this morning (Good Lord, that now sets the agenda of debate on Tumeke after all that's been written) so he may have added to his view...what was his take on it? "Racism now bad mmmkay??"
Look I can fully see your point on Buddy Mikaere...and Hone being an easy target...but the fact remains Buddy isn't an elected MP, Hone is. Hone saying it is far more "worthy of note" and news worthy...especially in the aftermath of the original problem - ducking Government Business.
Hone is bound to come under more media glare and criticism...but he threw petrol on the fire here with his comments..and goaded Buddy to take it to the press?
Hone has had to swallow a few dead rats for sure, but that is the nature of Parliament in the ordinary state of affairs. The deal with the Nats is obviously one hell of a dead rat given his politics, but there are ways and means of taking out your frustration (as Tariana showed), the Paris jaunt isn't a legitimate one.
Post a link that proves Buddy used 'white mofos' first. Otherwise we will have to assume you are talking shit.
De Bres looked truly pathetic on Breakfast this morning trying to justify his inaction. When Paul Henry asked what he actually does, he tried to say that the services that his department provides (whatever they are)were free! He really showed his true colours there - completely forgetting that his whole useless department is paid for by Joe Taxpayer.
Meanwhile, Hone just carries on and he will keep doing so, because he basically wants to martyr himself. Then he can blame the white man's system for knocking him down, just like they did 150 years ago etc etc. Tedious.
Hone is a one trick pony and can be summed up as follows:
1) Blame colonisation (doesn't matter what the issue is)
and then...
2) If you dare point out that he's an idiot then you're a racist.
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