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Thursday, July 09, 2009

Human sperm: which doctors

That story about mice - the deformed mice that humans had created and that nature had to kill - was three years ago. Today a claim human sperm have been created in a lab will be hailed as some sort of a wonderful miracle breakthrough and cure by the NZ media. It's horrifying is what it is. As horrifying as the woman who wanted a few extra years to live to play bridge so she went to China and had aborted embryos injected into her head and was hailed by the media in this country as a brave soul undergoing a medical marvel. It's that sort of horrifying. To a culture brought up on sci-fi and undergoing later-age reproductive pressure due to career and debt it's just science. It's medical science and therefore it must be good. All research is good research so the logic goes.

The reason why the sperm count of humans has halved over the last half century (the claim on today's One midday news) is to reduce the population to a sustainable level. Isn't that the natural answer? Humans themselves would draw that conclusion of any other animal they were studying. Then again only humans are capable of the hubris that would render the thought of any natural limitation simply a matter for their own genius to solve in short order.

So when they say the answer to stopping the World's population growing beyond any possibility to cope is to ensure that the wealthy and the elites will perpetuate themselves by unnatural means - to be offered a "treatment" in the words of the scientists for their natural infertility (or at least infertility caused by humans themselves) - then we need to think why this is necessary or desirable now that the freaks have established that it can (or could) be done. It's a dreadful spectre. Doctors should stick to delivering babies - not creating them.Embryonic stem cells are the major issue for the lab boys. Why? Why not other stem cells? They don't want to focus on stem cells - that's what the public don't seem to understand - it's the embryo that they are after. That's why they will always fight for the ability to retain all embryos, sperm and reproductive matter for as long as possible. They will find whatever excuse they can to hold onto the embryonic matter. This all has ethics approval... naturally.

19 Comments:

At 9/7/09 1:48 pm, Anonymous Gosman said...

If I was you I would be very wary of relying on the view that Sperm counts in human males have halved over the past century. It smacks of bad science to me especially when your only reference for this claim is One News.

I suggest you try and find some scientific study that you can link to if you do want to include this in your blog entry.

 
At 9/7/09 3:19 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

Very funny Mr Selwyn!

 
At 9/7/09 3:40 pm, Anonymous Gosman said...

I fail to see what was remotely funny in this post. Unless you are meaning the funny peculiar rather than funny ha ha.

 
At 9/7/09 3:45 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doctors should stick to delivering babies - EVA HEARD A MIDWIVES?

BRING BACK THE GOOSE.

 
At 9/7/09 3:56 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

If it annoys you Gosman, that makes it even more amusing

 
At 9/7/09 4:01 pm, Anonymous Gosman said...

I'm not annoyed just perplexed at why you find this topic funny. If it amuses you when I get perplexed then all you need to do is keep posting the sort of opinions you normally do.

 
At 9/7/09 4:03 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

If that's the case, don't watch my tv show tonight - it might cause you a stroke.

 
At 9/7/09 5:55 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't watch my tv show tonight -


COULDN'T EVEN IF I WANTED TO BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF PARLIAMENT/BACKBENCHERS/RUSSELL BROWN'S SHOW WITH "J.T" AND ANTI GAY SHIT ON SKY,

ISN'T IT?

as for blacks, the greatest favour a family court judge could do for michael jackson's white kids is to get them out of there/that family before it's too late.

 
At 9/7/09 6:11 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

It's also simulcast on triangle

 
At 9/7/09 6:20 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

(or at least infertility caused by humans themselves) - SO NOW THAT THEY HAVE MADE SPERM IN DA LAB, DO YA RECKON YA DICK MIGHT JUST DROP OFF "NATURALLY"?

(i still don't get it bomber, is it on their website, wot is their website, oh shit man i'm so confused,)

BUT THAT'S THE IDEA ISN'T IT 'public' address or is dat pubic
and just wot is miley's ideal guy...

 
At 9/7/09 6:21 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SIGNED LHAWSEY

 
At 9/7/09 6:25 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

Tim is posting this weeks show up on Tumeke on Sunday

 
At 9/7/09 6:43 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

BUT THAT'S THE IDEA ISN'T IT 'public' address

Self directed learning at home blogging is not real autonomy or freedom from supervision.Au contrare it is really just self-sabotage, a fear of real freedom and of leaving your computer at home for more than 5 minutes to go to the dairy to get a real paper or milk for a cup of tea or coffee.Try doing the shopping or cooking a meal for your parents once in a while as well.

Historically this notion of empowerment in society has been captured by individualism and by private notions of getting ahead.

That is not my conception of democracy and empowerment.I do not want to fall into a false and non-existent non-directivity of learning.For me education is always providing direction.I don't believe in self-liberation.Liberation is a social act and so is sex.Liberating education and sex is a social process.'Fuck' infertiltity.

 
At 9/7/09 7:22 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

INDIVIDUALISM AND NARCISSISM.

Christopher Lasch diagnoses a deep secondary narcissism at the heart of society.The culture of competitive individualism; males are theorised to seek and value autonomy, individuation, separation and the moral ideas of rights and justice which are thought to depend on a highly individuated conception of persons.By contrast, females are theorised to seek and value connection, sociality, inclusion,
and moral ideals of care and nurturance.From this perspective, highly individuated selves have been viewed as a problem (or "mentally ill")

They are seen as incapable of human attachments based on mutuality and trust, unresponsive to human needs, approaching students as irrationally self interested utility maximisers thriving on technology inspired separation from eachother and competition and thereby creating social institutions like uni which tolerate and even legitimise 'violence and aggression'.

(THE NEW RIGHT , INDIVIDUALISM AND THE CULTURE OF NARCISSISM.PAGE 105-106; INDIVIDUALISM AND COMMUNITY.PETERS AND MARSHALL.)

Self directed learning at home or blogging is not real autonomy or freedom from supervision.Au contrare it is really just self-sabotage, a fear of real freedom and of leaving your computer at home for more than 5 minutes to go to the dairy to get a real paper or milk for a cup of tea or coffee.Try doing the shopping or cooking a meal for your parents once in a while as well.

Historically this notion of empowerment in society has been captured by individualism and by private notions of getting ahead.

That is not my conception of democracy and empowerment.I do not want to fall into a false and non-existent non-directivity of learning.For me education is always providing direction.I don't believe in self-liberation.Liberation is a social act and so is sex.Liberating education and sex is a social process.'Fuck' infertiltity.

Also the exploitation of tangata-whenua helped build up the white man's wealth, and the liquidation of indigenous peoples by maori like the moriori opened up the country to thieves and pioneers and pastoral leasees.White men especially believed in the myth of the american dream and alot of rich land and no backward aristocracy but class, sex and race remained important with no visible examples of self made men and social structure.

Individualism at uni wos fueled by the breakneck pace of economic growth and modernisation of da city's trains and 21 stations.Individualism triumphed as social movements and maori protesters faltered.This neoliberal individualism dropped from the moon and the U.S.History wos da midwife.Social intelligence has developed less credibility and political empowerment than the individual efforts of a Mikheil Saakashvili styled meritocracy.The self-absorption of bloggas serves the systems needs to divide and conquer whom it attempts to organise thus.Contradicting the very individualism it proposes.

The self-directed learner.

Is expected to ask for help.

Students often work themselves into a corner.

The teacher is a resource person and mentor on demand.

When the students ask for something the teacher comes up with some bright ideas.

They can use these ideas as essays and copy and paste them.

In the U.S they will point to making it on your own.

Improving yourself.

Pulling yourself up by your own bootsraps.

Moving up in the world and moving on.

Striking it rich.

Ingenious personal effort.

Self made men and women.

An empowered student doesn't need to be watched or supervised.

Self organisation is real autonomy.

The autonomy of the institution depends on the full measure of democracy and power of the learner.

 
At 9/7/09 7:40 pm, Blogger Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Don't worry Bomber. I don't watch your show any night.

 
At 9/7/09 10:50 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason why the sperm count of humans has halved over the last half century (the claim on today's One midday news) is to reduce the population to a sustainable level. Isn't that the natural answer? Humans themselves would draw that conclusion of any other animal they were studying. Then again only humans are capable of the 'hubris' that would render the thought of any natural limitation simply a matter for their own genius to solve in short order.

So when they say the answer to stopping the World's population growing beyond any possibility to cope is to ensure that the wealthy and the elites will perpetuate themselves by unnatural means - I THOUGHT U WERE TALKIN BOUT "NARCISSISM"?

 
At 9/7/09 11:32 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I THOUGHT U WERE TALKIN BOUT "NARCISSISM"?


'hubris'

playing god

 
At 10/7/09 8:24 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adolf Fiinkensein said...
Don't worry Bomber. I don't watch your show any night.


Heh.
Tell us what time your show is on adolf?

Notice how the left wing bloggers are getting tv time, whereas the right are left to shit out daily blog postings.

 
At 10/7/09 8:32 am, Blogger Bomber said...

Heh.
Tell us what time your show is on adolf?

Notice how the left wing bloggers are getting tv time, whereas the right are left to shit out daily blog postings.


GRIN - while I appreciate your sentiment Anon, me gaining one show on TV isn't much of a victory, they just killed off poor old Willie Jackson on TVNZ. I'm sure Adolf was being his usual amusing facetious self.

 

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