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Monday, June 29, 2009

Don’t point guns at the Police


Paraplegic killed by police after officer shot during siege
A wheelchair-bound paraplegic was killed by police in Christchurch late last night after he shot a member of the Armed Offenders Squad (AOS). Police said the 40-year-old man was thought to have shot "in excess of 100 rounds of both shotgun and 308 into houses in the cul-de-sac where he lives" before being fatally shot. Inspector Rick Jury said that the man suffered from a head injury, was possibly suicidal, and that alcohol could have been involved in the incident. "He contacted family members today saying [Sunday] that he was suicidal but I understand he did make threats to police via the negotiating team who were in contact with him," Mr Jury said. Officers had rushed to Wadhurst Place in Burnside about 9pm after receiving reports that a man was firing a shotgun and a .308 rifle.

You know me, I’m Mr Liberal but there really is a threshold and the threshold is when you point a gun at a cop. I give cops a lot of stick about most things, but on this there can be little sympathy, yes the guy is in a wheelchair with a head injury and was boozed up, but he not only shot round after round into neighbouring houses, he also shot a cop. You shoot at a cop and you give them zero options in response other than more force. It looks like our miserably funded mental health service has failed once again.

14 Comments:

At 29/6/09 10:13 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems weird that a wheelchair bound man with previous mental troubles is allowed to (presumably) continue legal ownership of a shotgun and high powered rifle. What could he possibly use them for?

The Napier shootings were a great opportunity to tighten up the gun laws. After all, the army were called out,two cops were shot, one fatally. But Crusher Collins seems keener on containerization.

 
At 29/6/09 10:36 am, Anonymous Lover of Love said...

Sometimes you lose your head when you get legless.
I must go now and speed drink a bottle of fizzy red alcohol

 
At 29/6/09 11:37 am, Anonymous Mung bean said...

The Napier shootings were a great opportunity to tighten up the gun laws.

Why? Jan Molenaar had illegal firarms and wasn't licensed. The police didn't know he had guns so had no reason to try and take them off him.

I would be very surprised if the man in this case was either licensed or had the guns legally.



But Crusher Collins seems keener on containerization.

Well done for bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.

 
At 29/6/09 12:38 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm simply amazed that guy didn't kill innocents.

 
At 29/6/09 12:44 pm, Blogger Uroskin said...

If the cops had tasered him, would that have been the electric chair as a sentence?

 
At 29/6/09 12:48 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natural increase in the Auckland region has gradually risen, from 56,200 to 65,600 between 1991 and 2006. Over the same period, net internal migration fell, with a net loss of 18,100 people between 2001 and 2006,The Maori party continues to look limp and the camouflage wrapping to make ACT and National look moderate starts to become more and more apparent as ACT and National’s mass immigration ‘solution’ is quietly rolled out with zero public consultation. We have managed to plug the holes up at uni with the end of open entry for asians and now its the turn of maori and the polytechs like the wananga to cap these enrolments instead of profiteering like rongo the drongo wetere and family that made $240 million a year and bought a pub from the single biggest windfall from the govt in the tertiary sector.All the puntas got for their efforts to ring an 0800 number no one answers was to get 5 free books on how to look for work not training and a new zealand dictionary and a dvd of james belich and the maori wars.Of course without a quota for foreign students my mum still can't enrol.Why penalise kiwis when the whole point of the exercise without being crude was to have a period of consolidation after a decade and a half of john hood inspired radical growth to move us up the indices of the oecd while we sprouted shopping malls as a weekend rite of passage at botany downs and albany and most recently sylvia park.What a waste of a weekend!

 
At 29/6/09 12:50 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mung Bean

You piss me off!
Do you live in Burnside? Do you know of Shayne?
I bet you don't! I bet you're sipping on a latte in some cafe in Jaffa land right this minute!

As quoted "I would be very surprised if the man in this case was either licensed or had the guns legally."

Well be surprised! He did in fact have a license and he also was a member of the local shotgun club.
He had Muscular Dystrophy, became wheelchair bound and had trouble coping with his condition. He was quiet and you didn't see him around often.

Sure he put the shits up a lot of us last night and we spent hours at the nearby school as he fired willy nilly. Probably cause he wasn't able to target well due to his condition.

You make me so mad, thinking you know everything!

 
At 29/6/09 2:21 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 12:50

We would be very interested in speaking with you about Shayne, and trying to build a picture of what he was going through. If you are interested in talking to us contact Phil Corkery at 3News on 03 364 9370

 
At 29/6/09 2:39 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

TRANSLATION, IMMIGRANTS MOVE INTO AUCKLAND AND THE KIWIS HEAD SOUTH.

WHITE FLIGHT JUST LIKE FROM SOUTH AUCKLAND 20 YEARS AGO.TO WINE COUNTRY AND THE CENTRAL OTAGO LAKES.CHEAP PISS FROM OZ ANYONE?

YO WHERE MY SPECTATOR BITCHES AT?

OBAMA AND HIS "BLAIRITE-THIRD-WAY" INCLUSIVITY SOMEWHERE BEYOND THE TIRED OLD LEFT AND NEW NEO-CON RIGHT.INTERPRETATION U CANNOT CRITICISE MY POLITICS WHEN ALL POLITICS IS EITHA LEFT OR RIGHT JUST ASK PETER DUNNE OR WINSTON, WHERE IS WINSTON?

(p.s tim doesn't mind if yer off topic right bombers blog?)

(p.s.s where the hell is phoebe's film fest reviews?)

RUN WIF DA HUNTED...

 
At 29/6/09 3:53 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Far from being a case of 'cops do good', this is another case exposing the fact that police are not enforcing gun ownership laws.

Molenaar was licensed, but did not renew his license, which police knew (if they bothered to check their own records). It would seem reasonable toi assume that someone who was licensed to have guns, but did not renew their license, may still be toting guns...

Time to license the owner, and the guns. Simple with modern databases to do a once-in-a-lifetime background check on the owner before lifetime licensing them, and just updating that record/revoking or put conditions on that license if they go doolalley sometime.

And the guns get registered - like cars - so there is a legal requirement for change of ownership papers.

But the cops don't like boring, 'non-hero' paperwork, it seems...

Oh, and just cos someone points a gun in the general vicinity of ops does not give cops a green light to kill that person Bomber. Current law says there must be a clear threat to life of the cop or someone else for them to shoot.

Sadly, police 'interpret' this to mean 'blaze away, boys' Ask Halatau Naitoko about it sometime. Oh, wait....

 
At 29/6/09 8:28 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take it,anon,that you haven't yet caught up with the fact that Sime shot at and injured two people,including a police officer,with a shotgun?
And just how would a change in licensing laws have prevented this situation? There's no indication at this stage that Sime had illegal weapons. If if did,if doesn't seem to have used them.
LS

 
At 29/6/09 9:49 pm, Anonymous Grant said...

TV3 ..hahahaha. What a joke.

What the hell do you care about "what he'd been going through"..??

This is the news channel that peppers its "news programmes" with trailers for US crap Tv about serial killers ..night, after night, after night.

Then this evening it sends a big red invite out on the air to every other suicidal gun nut in the country, publicizing the fact that Sime in Chch wanted to "go out in a blaze of glory" . Gee thanks TV3. When the next one does exactly that ...the blood is upon your hands....and you'll no doubt still be bleating about wanting to understand the pain of others. Why not take a your own fucking behavior for a start !!!

 
At 29/6/09 11:32 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon, you might want to get your facts even remotely straight before posting.

What exactly in this case exposes that Police weren't enforcing gun ownership laws? This person was a licensed firearm holder, who belonged to a gun club and had legal weapons as per his license.

He wasn't breaking any laws.

 
At 30/6/09 12:44 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 11.32
He wasn't breaking any laws.

um, bar a mass shooting in burnside injuring a civilian and cop. last time i checked i wasnt aloud to do that whenever i felt the urge. Maybe a disabled card gives more leniance though. Ill have to check that one out =)

 

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