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Friday, May 29, 2009

UPDATE ON NATIONAL PARTY LEAK

I'm getting a fascinating amount of interest in my blog about David Farrar's sudden reversal on any suggestion that Don Brash printed his emails off, I've been told now that they WERE printed off and David's attempt to muddy the waters has a certain something about it.

I'm going to continue to probe over the weekend, but I have a feeling with David's protesteth too much there is blood in the water now...

Let's just re-cap what we are talking about here, the possibility that a co-ordinated effort within the National Party of leading National Party personalities leaked printed emails to Hager to topple Don Brash - personally I want to thank them and give them the public recognition they deserve because what was revealed was incredible about what National under Don Brash would have attempted but of course if the National Party personalities were so large revealing them could also create a civil war within National the ferocity of which could destabilize the Government.

TWO QUESTIONS:
1: Who was supposed to shred the emails Don asked to be shredded and who appointed that staffer?
2: Why would David Farrar, a man on the scene at the time as the IT Manager for the NLO when Don became leader claim emphatically that Don DIDN'T print his emails when I am told by Don Brash's people that he did print them?


Updates as they come to hand folks.

13 Comments:

At 29/5/09 4:37 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT' GOTTA BE OLD DON-KEY?

 
At 29/5/09 4:43 pm, Blogger rangi said...

Naughty David telling fibs again!
*shakes finger*

 
At 29/5/09 4:49 pm, Anonymous David Farrar said...

As I said during the six months I was there Don replied to his own private emails very efficiently, and was not one of those MPs who needed them printed out to deal with.

Things may have changed after I left. I left in March 2004.

Emails sent to Don's public address were treated as correspondence and were printed out for staff to draft a reply to etc.

Most of the e-mails in the Hollow Men were internal emails to his private address.

I'm catching up with Don in a few days, so I'll happily ask him what the printing procedures were after I left if you really think they are significant.

 
At 29/5/09 5:24 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

GRIN – David I love that you play the game so well, it’s like chess with chainsaws.

David this latest post from you is a totally different one from your first post trying to dampen down any suggestion that Don Brash printed the emails and that it was these emails that were used in the Hollow Men, let’s recap what you said…

Don did not require his emails to be printed out as he liked reading them in paper format.

Don was probably the most heavy email user of any MP I have known. He was 100% comfortable with reading and responding electronically. He would send dozens of emails a day and often respond within minutes.

So Don did not get his emails printed out for him, and there was no shredding of them the next day.

I know this as I was IT Manager for the NLO when Don became Leader.permi
We’ll skip your first line as it doesn’t make sense, but the point you seem to have hurriedly tried to make in your first post was that Don DID NOT print his emails off, no if’s no buts – HE DID NOT PRINT THEM and you knew that because you were the IT Manager for the NLO when Don became leader. Compare that with you latest posts which paint a totally different tone and a totally different story

As I said during the six months I was there Don replied to his own private emails very efficiently, and was not one of those MPs who needed them printed out to deal with.

Things may have changed after I left. I left in March 2004.

Emails sent to Don's public address were treated as correspondence and were printed out for staff to draft a reply to etc.
No you didn’t originally state you were there only for the first six months, you claimed in that first post to be an absolute expert in knowing Don didn’t print his emails, something I have found out simply isn’t true – HE DID PRINT HIS EMAILS, and the ones needing to be shredded were marked with a large S weren’t they David?

Most of the e-mails in the Hollow Men were internal emails to his private address.I’m well aware of that and I’m telling you they WERE printed off and that these printed emails were the source of the Hollow Men. The Police have ruled out hacking, yet you still cling to it as opposed to accepting that they were printed emails – why is that David?

I'm catching up with Don in a few days, so I'll happily ask him what the printing procedures were after I left if you really think they are significant.LOL – yes I would be interested to see what Don says to you, he seems to have very firm ideas as to where the blame lies so your meeting should be fascinating.

Again – who was the staffer inside Dons office responsible for shredding emails and who appointed that staffer?

 
At 29/5/09 10:09 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"yes I would be interested to see what Don says to you,"

Yep, video or nothing but. DPF's word aint worth much anymo

 
At 29/5/09 10:24 pm, Anonymous David Farrar said...

You keep saying the Police have ruled out hacking. Cite a reference for this.

You also seem to be ignorant that there are many ways one can access the e-mails in electronic form, without it being hacking. Copying a PST file onto a flash drive would take around 60 seconds and someone with physical access to the computer could do it easily.

 
At 30/5/09 7:29 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sik him bomber

 
At 30/5/09 9:58 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Things may have changed after I left I think somebody found the reverse gear!

 
At 30/5/09 11:41 am, Blogger Bomber said...

You keep saying the Police have ruled out hacking. Cite a reference for this.How about your Doyenne of the right, Fran O'Sullivan?In his April 16 press statement, Quinn said police had eliminated the suggestion that an external computer hacker had breached the computer security within Parliament.
But Key - who has had a subsequent briefing - believes illegal access to the parliamentary computer system is still "most likely". But he noted the capability to investigate whether the system had been subject to an unauthorised breach was going to be hard to determine as there was no proper computer security system in place.
This exposes a considerable gap in Key's understanding, with Quinn's categorical statement that: "The investigation has concluded that no unauthorised or unlawful breach of Parliament's computer system) took place."
She seems pretty certain, and Fran is pretty much on the money most of the time...

You also seem to be ignorant that there are many ways one can access the e-mails in electronic form, without it being hacking. Copying a PST file onto a flash drive would take around 60 seconds and someone with physical access to the computer could do it easily.Oh don't be so silly David, I am well aware of the many ways people can access information, what I am saying is that Don printed his emails off and they were the source, whoever was supposed to shred them must have passed them to someone who passed them to Nicky.

And again David, is Nicky right and did high ranking National Party peeople leak him the emails?

 
At 30/5/09 11:41 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Copying a PST file onto a flash drive would take around 60 seconds and someone with physical access to the computer could do it easily. Thats better than hacking!

 
At 30/5/09 5:20 pm, Blogger SeaJay said...

So, Penguin, someone copied the emails onto a flash drive, then what?

 
At 31/5/09 3:41 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOS IT A BREAK-IN JUST LIKE WATERGATE AND CARL BERNSTEIN AND WOODWARD AND NIXON OF COURSE HEY MATES!

 
At 31/5/09 6:30 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

BOB Woodward, is an associate editor at THE WASHINGTON POST,

(not the Washington Times owned by Rev Moon)

for 37 years.He has shared two Pulitzer prizes, first for the Post's coverage of the Watergate scandal, and later for coverage of 9/11.He is also the author of 11 no 1 bestsellers including BUSH AT WAR (2002) plan of attack (2004) and state of denial (2006).

I'M READING THE WAR WITHIN , A SECRET WHITE HOUSE HISTORY 2006-2008.(FIFTY BUCKS)

 

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