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Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Look at our boy Bailey Kurariki now, oh we're all so proud


Kurariki back in jail charged with assault
Bailey Junior Kurariki, the country's youngest convicted killer, is back behind bars charged with assaulting a woman. Kurariki was arrested in South Auckland yesterday on a charge of assaulting Janie Martin, believed to be his girlfriend. He appeared today in the Manukau District Court and was remanded in custody to appear again on May 6. No plea was entered and no application for bail or suppression of his name was lodged.

LOOK AT OUR LITTLE BOY FOLKS, isn’t he the poster boy for throwing kids in jail? Hasn’t he been the shining example of what a fuck up our prison system fuelled by our lynch mob mentality can create? I love how rednecks want more prison time, but don’t want to see the results of that prison time, they never seem to want to talk about Bailey, tell me lynchers – what do you think happens when boys go through corrections, seriously, do you believe Simon Powers and his mates in National that prisons are all 3 star hotels and prisoners love the place or would that contradiction force tool much soul searching?

The sad inevitability of Bailey going back inside is as much our failure as a society as his.

Round of applause everyone, now while I criticised heavily the idea that we should throw a 12 year old into prison for a botched robbery when all he did was say ‘ready now’, look at how he’s turned out! His clown of an accomplice hit Michael Choy once in the head, leaving Michael screaming in pain, they took the pizzas and money off him, walked Michael (screaming and bleeding) back to his pizza delivery car and then went back inside to eat the pizzas and split the money (hardly criminal masterminds were they), Michael Choy was then robbed again by a couple of teenagers who had watched the initial robbery from across the street (great neighborhood) and Michael crawls out of his car, bangs on an old couples door and dies in the garden. Awful and hideous for Michael Choy and his family, but 7 years in prison for a 12 year old? Unbelievable! I remember saying at the time that this was a joke of a sentence that would only doom society to having to deal with a furious young man who we’ve thrown onto the scrapheap of prison to feed our own sense of vengeance. His foundation years as an adult have been spent inside our underfunded and broken penal system and while I criticized a system that would lock up a 12 year old, look at how well balanced our Bailey has turned out now.

Well done NZ, silly me for doubting the wisdom of throwing kids in jail.

28 Comments:

At 31/3/09 8:00 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He didn't actually go to prison though did he?

But leaving that aside I don't see how this would have been any different if he hadn't gone away. His mother is a degenerate alcoholic, father never there, hardly ever went to school, already in with a bad crowd doing bad stuff even if you ignore Michael Choi's death.

Do you really think he would have got to the age of 18 without a few more convictions for doing things like bashing his girlfriend if he hadn't been taken from his mother?

And as for his beating up his girlfriend somehow being the fault of anyone but Baily - I'd really like to know how that is. who else are you going to tell us can't be blamed for the domestic violence meted out by their own hands because xyz happened to them when they were young?

 
At 31/3/09 8:07 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He didn't actually go to prison though did he?
Semantics, yes he did.

But leaving that aside I don't see how this would have been any different if he hadn't gone away. His mother is a degenerate alcoholic, father never there, hardly ever went to school, already in with a bad crowd doing bad stuff even if you ignore Michael Choi's death.
Hey I know what'll help, with all those issues, let's just chuck him in corrections from the age of 12, that'll sort him out huh, oops, looks like it didn't.

Do you really think he would have got to the age of 18 without a few more convictions for doing things like bashing his girlfriend if he hadn't been taken from his mother?
Well we know what the hard arse shit redneck NZ like to bray about has done, not much better!

And as for his beating up his girlfriend somehow being the fault of anyone but Baily - I'd really like to know how that is. who else are you going to tell us can't be blamed for the domestic violence meted out by their own hands because xyz happened to them when they were young?
Perhaps you could go check out some classes to educate yourself on those issues?

 
At 31/3/09 8:11 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come the names of the other teenagers involved in this murder are never mentioned? What happened to them?

NS

 
At 31/3/09 8:21 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great article. They should have sent him to boot camp

 
At 31/3/09 8:43 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come the names of the other teenagers involved in this murder are never mentioned? What happened to them?

NS


Now that is a very good point.

 
At 31/3/09 8:46 am, Anonymous Mark said...

He would have turned out like this whether he was put away or not.

 
At 31/3/09 9:06 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

really if you cant do the time...dont do the crime.

Remember someone lost their life here....is that supposed to be pissed on because one of his killers was young????

 
At 31/3/09 10:15 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ooh bomber you are so wise ..how about you just do an article entitled "NZ GET STUFFED - I TOLD YOU SO!". You are a self prophesising git who believes everyone else is at fault constantly rather than placing the large portion of blame on the criminal themself. This is good: he will go back inside again and we might get another year before he can make someone else a victim. He was never going to change, its a shame but its reality. Hopefully he doesn't kill anyone else, but in a way if he keeps messing up with assault charges/drugs etc he will be off the streets longer and longer. He can be free to think he's the man inside; i couldnt give a rats about this waste of humanity.

 
At 31/3/09 10:44 am, Blogger Bomber said...

SNAP - I was going to call it 'NZ Rednecks I fucking told you so' - but in the interests of bridge building and concensus making I thought you might get snippy at being pointed out that throwing a 12 year old in prison might have some negative impacts down the track, and I know how much you rednecks hate to think, so I went with Look at our boy Bailey Kurariki now, oh we're all so proud.

As for your points that he was never going to change, I laughed so much I cried. How was a 12 year old thrown into corrections with the very little we spend rehabilitiating any of them ever going to act out Anon? Look I know thinking isn't your strong point, and you love those knee jerks but writting human beings off at 12 seems extreme even for an anonymous poster.

Let's talk responsibility, Bailey wasn't very responsible when as a 12 year old he said 'ready now', but how responsible was a society for getting whipped up into a frenzy over his case demanding that we put him into corrections for the formulative part of his upbringing?

 
At 31/3/09 11:15 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Bailey was always going to be a degenerate loser eh Mark, eh Anons? No point in society trying to help rather than punish a 12 year old? Well I guess that means it's not YOUR fault that the cycle continues on and on. Got a solution to that? Lock em up lock em up lock em up is it?

He'll be out and reoffending before you know it, probably something big next time, and you'll be able to lock him up again... until he's out again. Yep, whether in or out of jail we're going to pay for him forever. And while you big-mouthed idiots applaud from the sidelines, the people on the ground have to attempt to cope with the consequences of screwups like this. Why don't you get off your lazy arses and join in sometime, you might learn something.

 
At 31/3/09 11:40 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe he is better than before? At least he didn't kill her. That's a step in the right direction from before he went to prison. We can't really expect a cold blood killer to then go lead a spic n span life can we?

BTW this post is very lightly peppered with sarcasm.

 
At 31/3/09 11:42 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no causal link you can prove bomber between Baily committing this new offence and his imprisonment because he had already committed a murder before. This new offence is simply a continuation of his degenerate upbringing.

 
At 31/3/09 12:28 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its actually fine that he assaulted his girlfriend, we are allowed to do that now. Really all he was doing was following the example of our society and the people around him. It might have even been a well thought out career move. He will probably now get a glamourous well paid job in TVNZ. In fact it probably wasn't even his fault, she probably asked for it by not waxing or something.

Youth Penal System = F for fail

*this post ALSO lightly peppered with sarcasm

 
At 31/3/09 3:24 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the other kids? Does anyone know?

NS

 
At 31/3/09 3:30 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd hardly think you want to make this debate political, considering he was convicted and served his time during Labour government.

But on many of the other points, the system does need addressing, more funding and alternatives to 'throw away the key'

 
At 31/3/09 3:57 pm, Anonymous bring back buck said...

I'm of the opinion that he should NOT have gone to jail.
I would have liked to have seen - in an ideal world - a 12 yr old child,put into some kind of 'care' where his dysfunctional upbringing could have been RIGOROUSLY addressed.

It is not surprising that he is now offending.
However , surprisingly , I tend to agree with one of the redneck anons who says he would have done this ( assault female... gone on to commit crimes) anyway.

Although I would qualify it by saying "possibly" ... he was in a dysfunctional family , he was running with a bad crowd, there wasn't a lot of hope and if the Choi murder hadn't happened ( if only !) its possible..hmmm probable,that he would have gone down the usual path that so many kids in his situation go down.

HOWEVER , aged 12, and involved in a serious crime ( although his part in it was 'minor' ) WE had a chance to turn this kid around and work with him - and his family - but we chose to take the more punitive and populist path and where has it got us ? Where has it got him ? Its a 'lose-lose'.

When I see this kid standing in the dock now, I see a kid who just doesn't get it - and i'm not being judgemental there , he looks genuinely confused and bewildered and more than a little like a hunted animal.

He has Media all over him ( what a great story he is for them ) and the talkback crowd out for his blood - but they forget , since he was 12, WE bought him up, WE were his guardians.

 
At 31/3/09 4:09 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

youy forget bomber that jury of society put him away, he was found guilty of murder. he had to go to a juvenile detention centre - not prison. he was never going to change regardless of the sentence he got. it comes to upbringing and if you look at his parents they are wastes just like him, receiving the dole and doing sweet f.a.
bomber if he's such a good boy and needs a chance: have him move in with you, because of course you will be able to turn him with your significant intellectual ability. everything on your site seems to come down to 1 thing : "it's the white mans fault". wake up fool.

 
At 31/3/09 5:06 pm, Anonymous jdawg said...

Personal responsibility, a swear to Bombler and his ilk, to whom there is always someone else to blame, usually right leaning Govts and white men, but lets not get sexist racist here. People make choices, what was Bailey even doing there in the first place. If there are no consequences for negative actions then you'll be living in a whole lot worse a place than we are now. Your ignorance is simply astounding.

 
At 31/3/09 9:15 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe,just maybe, its because hes a hopeless fucking maori and was going to go down this path no matter what.(which might have been obvious since he was into armed robbery at 12!)

 
At 1/4/09 8:04 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kuariki wasn't an innocent niave 12 year old who got caught up in a murder.

By the age of 12 he had been expelled from every school he attended, was doing drugs and alcohol, and was well known to the police.

By the time Kuariki was 12, it was already too late to help him.
If he was 8, then intensive counselling might have helped, but by 12, too late.

Some people are just bad.

 
At 2/4/09 11:30 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the time Kuariki was 12, it was already too late to help him.

We'll never really know. Keep telling yourself that though, if it makes you feel better.

 
At 3/4/09 2:02 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they had let him off to go home with mummy he would have gone to university (to be an accountant perhaps) just like all those other nice SA boys (and girls) who stayed home.

I wonder what Mr Choy would have been if they hadn't killed him, not an accountant as the poor chap was disabled - brave those SA boys. I wonder if Mr Choy suffered much before he died – poor chap must have be terrified.

How famous criminals become and how quickly we forget the innocent victims.

Thank god poor little Karla Cardno’s father kept her name alive - for a little while at least.

By the way Dally (his new name provided by the department) only pleaded guilty to stop the evidence of what he did to her coming out in open court, most of you have no idea what really happens to the victims because a lot of it is so awful the papers can’t print it, and the courts suppress a lot, so while what you read is bad – the full stories are often a 100 times worse.

 
At 4/8/09 5:09 pm, Anonymous Andrew said...

To all the dicks ripping him out: he's right.

He's not saying that he should have got off without a charge or anything ridiculous like that.

What he's trying to say is that shoving him in a hole for 7 years isn't going to do a 12yr old kid any good.

Everyone who was all set to crucify the kid for a social situation he didn't put himself in needs their heads read.

Prison wasn't the right thing for him. And now look what happened. It's people like YOU! that have made him turn out like he has. Had someone actually helped the guy when he was 12, maybe he would've been OK. Maybe not role model, but OK all the same.

Sort your shit out you one eyed muppets. The world is bigger than you and your wrong opinions.

 
At 26/2/10 11:12 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well its funny how everyone likes to talk about Bailey and say he killed Micheal but the truth was he didn't he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Yet the ones who really did kill him never get talked about. Oh hang on the papers wouldn't sell SHIT ALL if they kept posting things about the real killers because there not that important. Well what can you do when your country doesn't let you live a normal life when you come out of jail have you people ever thought of that???
I'm sure there have been other killers that have come out and you don't hear nothing about them and yes maybe they did grow up but i do strongly say how can Bailey when so called LOVELY NEW ZEALAND PLEASE... Will Not Give Him The Chance To....

 
At 1/3/10 7:32 pm, Anonymous Harry The Dog said...

This killer did not become scum because he has been in prison. He was scum long before that. Maybe his parents should have been sterilised. He sure as hell should be!
The conviction for manslaughter should have been murder. It was cynically planned and executed in cold blood.
He has shown no remorse and still offends at every oppertunity.
I am sick of bleeding heart liberals wanting to release people whao are dangerous.

 
At 15/11/10 1:02 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Awful and hideous for Michael Choy and his family, but 7 years in prison for a 12 year old? Unbelievable!"

Is this blogger being serious or is he trolling? I am stupid and this is hard for me to tell.

 
At 24/8/13 6:25 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having worked with many Maori families in one form or other, I have formed the conclusion that there is something wrong with the way some Maori raise their children...teaching their sons to be anti authority and giggling about it like a naughty adolescent has often been a response from, more often than not, Maori fathers...not a good way for a child to be encouraged in any society...their sons respond by sulking even at the most innocuous requests that other children take in their stride...The prejudices and inadequacies of Maori fathers should not be allowed to stymie the lives of, particularly, their sons...but prison statistics indicate that they do...
...but women have a responsibility too...why would Janie Martin, believed to be Kurariki's girlfriend, ever entertain the notion to become involved with someone of his background??? This, to me, is astounding in it's stupidity... Women need to aim for the best mate possible to father their offspring - it's common sense...

 
At 21/4/14 9:20 pm, Blogger happy pond said...

maoris are a pest to society no joke
they contribute next to nothing but why should i care their gonna dies out in a few decades of so then ill throw a HUGE party
saw a comment on youtube saying thats its his country and that this somehow makes his murder ok
disgusting

 

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