"Independent" Police Conduct Authority a joke - killer cop exonerated
NZ Police, the way their Porirua sausage factory of an academy works, is designed to churn out munters. They are cowards and bullies - fundamentally - it is their M.O. Those are the types who aspire to be police, who are selected, who make it through and who are promoted. They are pack beasts, they are chosen for their adherence to pack mentality, for their arrogance (a policeman is always right, no matter what or who he's raping or killing at the time) and their mediocre intelligence. This is probably true of most police forces. But unlike other police this country has only one police force - directly accountable to the minister rather than a board - a direct tool of the Crown since its formation from the The latest whitewash of a police killing has all the usual sickening characters celebrating the status of the NZ Police as being above the law and able to kill - pretty much - at will. The Police Association cheerleader was defending this killer even before he knew any facts, within hours of the shooting, just as the large numbers of naively pro-police robot-humans in talkbackland reflexively did as they fell in line with the Police Association's ridiculous spin that the shooting was not only somehow justified, but that it was necessary and inevitable. An outrageous green light for open season shooting by the cops. It took the intervention of the Chief Justice herself to actually bring Constable Keith Abbott - the killer - to stand trial in a private prosecution. Private because the conservative forces of the Crown were determined to see him walk free. And the redneck jury let the shooter go. Right back on the job.
It has taken nine years to get this IPCA report (The PDF doesn't have readable text either so I can't view it to comment on it at this time) - a fact in itself that warrants skepticism of the conclusion; reached as it has been by a notoriously and chronically compromised organisation dependent on the very people they are supposedly investigating. Hopelessly conflicted, under-resourced and obviously stymied, Justice Goddard's finding's as the IPCA are beyond disappointing.
Yesterday's headlines were just a pathetic airbrushing of the whitewash:
It's the bit where Abbott shot him four times that matters here, not a minor - almost sarcastic - afterthought that perhaps the police should treat someone they intended to kill and had pumped several rounds into with dignity. What a horrifying and ugly joke. The police deserve firstly scrutiny, but not automatic condemnation - when they shoot and kill in the course of apprehending or containing a dangerous offender. The police officer who confronted and then shot and killed a man who threatened him with a replica Glock pistol after a scuffle and then a car chase off the end of Auckland's North-Western motorway in 2000, for example, quite rightly should bare no stigma and answer no charges for his actions. He could not be sure it wasn't the real thing, he sensed mortal danger and so he fired, hitting and fatally wounding the offender. That case seems clear and the resulting exoneration was fair enough because of the circumstances.
But the circumstances in the Wallace killing are quite different. Two policemen made a decision - after Wallace had shown them his aggression and the disrespect of attacking the police car's windows - to drive to the station and arm themselves with guns. At that point they had already made their mind up to use deadly force on Wallace. The Police Association cheerleader would probably go along with that assertion. It certainly looks like a murderous intention was forming at that point. After locating him in the main street in the midst of his rampage one of them, Abbott, goes ahead and approaches Wallace. At some point he puts down his baseball bat and comes at Abbott with a golf club (presumably he had held one instrument in each hand up to this point) and then... bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Dead.
Now what the other gutless cretin of a cop, Dombroski was doing was cowering by the car instead of assisting Abbott. Two male cops on one man with a golf club is certainly not going to be life threatening to the policemen. For Wallace, Abbott's cowardly mistake was fatal. He set out to kill him, and he killed him. The plan was for him to be shot and killed - the actions of the two policeman amply prove that. No attempt at containment seems attempted and nor was the use of anything else or other tactic employed, the shooting was a was foregone conclusion - the last resort was the first - and that was a terrible mistake. A mistake made from fear rather than just the routine stupidity of two men not having the brains to figure out another solution.
The real issue in this case (after Wallace's death itself) is that a precedent has been set that if a cop drops their balls, is panicky, scared and dumb and incapable of making even a simple plan of action with their colleagues (who are standing around next to them), they are - according to the deceptively re-named "Independent" Police Conduct Authority - entitled to just open fire on people if they feel like they might be threatened. The circumstances would indicate that the threat of death in this case was negligible to infinitesimal. It is impossible to credibly assert that two male police officers together would really fear death from one man wielding a 4 iron (or whatever it was). So the threshold is set lower than a reasonable fear of imminent death, down to a bar of one person being possibly injured (had both men decided to take him on with non-lethal weapons, or indeed by hand if they had to).
In other words if one hundred cops confronted one man with a golf club - under the various decisions by Crown authorities topped off yesterday by the credulous IPCA report) - any one of them could shoot to kill him and be justified because the threat of just one of those cops being potentially injured is reason enough. That bar for a police officer to take someone's life is now set so low that the public - at least the segment with their brains not permanently set to knee-jerk - cannot have confidence in the police or its apologist Conduct Authority.








28 Comments:
Yes, well.
An ex-con with an axe to grind would always think that way.
Tumeke have no credibility when discussing the police, given your blatant bias.
Hell bentcop.org is more balanced.
I disagree, I think Tumeke has a very biting view that cuts through the pro police bias in the media. It is refreashing and I note you don't even try to debate the points Tim raises.
Debate what?
That police are pack animals that kill innocent people going about their business?
Hysterical hyperbole is not a cogent argument.
Apart from the boy on the motorway, can you link to an example where the police have straight out murdered an innocent party?
And lets not forget that Steven Wallace was not just walking down the street minding his own business.
Ah my favourite police-hate-website! No doubt the omission of the text from the PDF (an action by the ruling elite to further disenfranchise the downtrodden) will not aid you when it does eventuate as it appears that you already know what it says, without reading it. Then again, I knew what you were going to say before I logged on this morning, so I didn't need to read you either.
Perhaps we should both stop reading and writing and, as Yossarian would say, 'cut out the middle man'
In other words if one hundred cops confronted one man with a golf club - under the various decisions by Crown authorities topped off yesterday by the credulous IPCA report) - any one of them could shoot to kill him and be justified because the threat of just one of those cops being potentially injured is reason enough.
Thats right.
And they would shot someone to defend your life Tim, if you were in eminent danger of serious assault.
Police aren't paid to die for anybody, or be seriously injured.
So if you approach the police with a weapon, and are percieved to be willing to use it, then prepare to be shot.
a direct tool of the Crown since its formation from the Pakeha death squads terrorising Maori in order to suppress them and effect the forced seizure of their land armed constabulary keeping peace on the frontier.
That's the best criticism of the fucking Police I've ever read, well done Tumeke
Well it's certainly a great bit of fiction.
So if you approach the police with a weapon, and are percieved to be willing to use it, then prepare to be shot.
Would that be good enough for a citizen though? You have to prove self-defense don't you? Mere perception is a pretty low threshold and that's the valid point Tim is making
Well it's certainly a great bit of fiction.
What that the Police weren't used like that in the early history of NZ? Think before you post anon, you sure of your history? You sure the Police weren't used like that?
Would that be good enough for a citizen though?
If you came into my house with a golf-club, then I would shot you.
I would then be either charged, or not.
Either way, I am not waiting to see what you intend to do with the club.
If I shot someone on the street, then I would be charged, unless I was a police officer, who would be entitled to use force to stop the person from attacking anybody.
If you saw someone being attacked on the street, you can use whatever force necessary, within reason, to stop the attack.
Austin Hemming did that, unfortunately he died.
If it was a police officer, he would have shot the man.
What that the Police weren't used like that in the early history of NZ? Think before you post anon, you sure of your history? You sure the Police weren't used like that?
Sure Dan.
Just link us to some reputable sources than can confirm this.
you can use whatever force necessary, within reason, to stop the attack.
And I think you've nailed it on the head there Anon - 'within reason' and the question that has always hovered over this entire case with Wallace was whether or not it was within reason. Two cops, one guy, they left the situation to get guns, could've waited for the dogs but they shot him. The question has always been were their actions within reason.
Just link us to some reputable sources than can confirm this.
Dan could I suggest you get Anon to read 'No left turn' pages 52-53, 84-85, 89-90, 131, 201, 229-31, 258 as a starting point
The question has always been were their actions within reason.
Which has been answered, it's just that you refuse to accept the findings.
Who does Trotter use as his source bomber?
You seemed to have glossed over the part of this story where Helen Clark waded into the argument accusing the police of racism and then quickly stfu and pulled her head in when she found out constable Abbot was Maori himself.
If the police had access to tazers then Wallace would still be alive today, would have been out of prison probably in under a year, back on the streets, smoking P and causing mayhem.
But heaven forbid we let cops have tazers to prevent deaths in cases JUST LIKE THIS.
"The police deserve firstly scrutiny, but not automatic condemnation"
Tell that to Bomber, he always condemns the police before the facts are fully out. We can do with this kind a liberal knee jerk dog whistle reaction.
The police officer who confronted and then shot and killed a man who threatened him with a replica Glock pistol
You are right that the officer who did that shooting in 2000 should suffer no consequences, but that Abbot is nothing but murdering scum.
but that Abbot is nothing but murdering scum.
Mrs Wallace is that you?
Time to build a bridge and get over it.
From the report;
Steven then stopped on the corner of McLean Street and Domett Street, where he got out of his vehicle and began to smash glass panes in the surrounding buildings. As the taxi passed, after having dropped off its passenger, he crossed the road swinging a baseball bat and smashed the driver’s window as it drove past, giving the taxi driver the impression that he was aiming for the windscreen.
On two occasions, Steven also moved aggressively towards a car containing some young people who knew him. The driver left in a hurry each time.
At some stage, Steven also drove at high speed directly towards a security guard on a bicycle. The guard feared for his life and went immediately to the petrol station to report the incident.
Angry young man.
Suicide by cop.
Tell that to Bomber, he always condemns the police before the facts are fully out. We can do with this kind a liberal knee jerk dog whistle reaction.
YAWN - Anon did you even read my post on the last police shooting where I supported the cops?
Clown
"Mrs Wallace is that you?
Time to build a bridge and get over it."
Wow, that is totally callous!
NS
The report pdf is now downloading with the text this morning (it was not last night), so I will make some more comments after reading the document.
dudes, lets get back to fundamentals. What would you think of a person raving and threatening and with the ferocious new age weaponry of a golf club.
You would think well I won't get too close and soon as possible things will cool down, and I will just get some people to help out soon , and with all this cop equiopment here, like phones i will ring people, and get help here soon, and hope this dude doessn't break to many more windows,
Abbot is a moron cop and a killer pure and simple ,
Did someone mention bentcops.org?
Take a look at this, I've just updated it, got four new names too.
Well three new names really, one of them has been double dipping.
http://www.bentcops.org/nzpolice/rogues-gallery/
got to love bunches of armchair radicals telling everyone how they would have dealt with a situation that in real life would have had them crap their pants and run like hell.
"OOOh the cops are evil" - so dont call them when you get burgled mate.
"OOOh they are racist" even when they are black apparently, because of something that happened more than 100 years ago (tell it to Obama).
"OOOh we know better than any official report cos u know official reports are always lies" unless we get a cushy public service job or elected to parliament in which case its always different
"OOOh no tasers because they are bad" ....wait why the knee jerk when they could have had a chance of saving this mans, and other p crazed or mentally ill peoples lives....(hint - because secretly the whiners don't actually give a stuff about those people unless they look nice and photogenic on a tv commercial with Susan Devoy)
Tim Selwyn said...
The report pdf is now downloading with the text this morning (it was not last night), so I will make some more comments after reading the document.
Shouldn't you have waited till you had all the facts before coming out guns blazing for the police?
Thats a blog fail.
Or standard journalism.
Commenter Fail with Anon 8:36am - I've followed the case and I read the news articles on the report and I read the report's summary - and that is ample enough background information to post on - but the detail of the report was unavailable at the time and now it is not and I'm reading it and I will go through it in a later post.
"I've followed the case and I read the news articles on the report and I read the report's summary - and that is ample enough background information to post on "
And yet you claimed Wallace was armed with a golf club rather than a baseball bat...really informed.
Commenter Fail with Anon 8:36am
Nope.
You went of half-cocked without having all the facts.
Thats a blog fail.
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