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Friday, March 27, 2009

Foreign land

NZ Herald:

They may never have been to New Zealand in their lifetime, but a new wave of "immigrants" could be spending eternity here.

A group of Singapore businessmen was here last month, and appointed an agent to help them look for land in the Hibiscus Coast area to bury dead people from cities such as Singapore and Tokyo, which are running out of cemetery space.


We shouldn't allow land purchases to non-citizens let alone the permanent squatting of foreigners by way of a cemetery plot. We should take it seriously - foreigners who die in NZ should be cremated - not buried.

Importing the corpses of Asians would be the final, terminal act of this colony. Immigrants selling land - Maori land for the most part - to other incoming immigrants has been the basis for the economy since the 1830s and that is unsustainable on so many levels.

"Honouring their ancestors is an important aspect of most Asian cultures, and the group is also hoping that this cemetery project will give immigrants the opportunity to bring the remains of their ancestors to New Zealand," said the group's agent, a part-time tourist guide, who did not want to be named.

Under the immigration rules of this colony it seems any immigrant can get their parents in too - regardless of how old they are and regardless of whether they can speak one word of English - or Maori. They are already being imported so they can die. To the NZ Crown that represents a lift in GDP - the only real criteria. But what value are they adding - and to whom and at what cost?

The presence of elderly parents here reinforces the immigrant's home country's heritage, language and religion and to that extent is counter-productive to integration. They are used as free baby-sitting by their adult children, which means their kids - even though they may be born in NZ - may be brought up, effectively as foreigners, with their enrolment in the state school system the socialisation force pulling in the other direction. The real problems will occur if immigrant ethnic groups set up their own schools (state-funded one way or the other like most religious ones are now), then there is a risk the children of immigrants will be culturally vertically integrated in their own sphere - rather than participating (horizontally if you will) with other groups.

In the part of Auckland where I live, certainly, there are many elderly immigrants - the fathers and mothers of people who have scraped in on the points system and are living here, one way or the other. They are only following the rules of one of the loosest immigration policies in the first world and you cannot blame them for taking advantage of it. One of the attractions of NZ to immigrants - esp. younger Asian immigrants - is that they can get there parents in too, so they can retire here - something they could never do on their own because they would not meet the criteria esp. age, English language and skills.

Who would say no to free public transport, pension and medical costs met by the government and the vote after only two years residency?

The president of the New Zealand Chinese Association, Kai Luey, said he would support the project because it would keep Chinese traditions alive for new immigrants, and would give them a greater sense of belonging.

Belonging to where? Belonging to China.

15 Comments:

At 27/3/09 1:14 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FRICKEN A BRO!

THE LEGACY OF DON BRASH AT OREWA AND ROGER DOUGLAS SON OF OREWA AND EVEN MULDOON AT HIS BACH IN HIS STUBBIES AND JANDALS AT HATFIELDS BEACH WILL TURN IN HIS GRAVE.

COULD THEY NOT HAVE A CHOSEN A LESS CONTENTIOUS AND CONTROVERSIAL PIECE OF LAND THAN THE ROTARY CLUB UP THERE.PUT TOGETHER WITH TAURANGA THEY ARE UNSTOPPABLE PATRIOTS OF A PARTICULAR BRAND OF NATIONALISM UNSEEN IN THIS NECK OF THE WOODS.I TOO AM SURROUNDED BY THEM.IT'S ALREADY TOO LATE TO GET OUT OF AUCKLAND.WHITE FLIGHT THAT HORSE HAS BOLTED.THEY ARE ALL LIVING IN CENTRAL OTAGO LAKES WITHOUT A FUCKEN CURRY-MUNCHER IN THE LOCAL DAIRY IN SIGHT.FUCK, I THINK THEY STILL HAVE GLASS MILK BOTTLES IN CHRISTCHURCH MATE.STILL PUT TOGETHER WITH THE SLOPES AND THE "THE OTHER" SCUM, FILTH AND RUBBISH WHAT CAN YA DO.WERE STUCK HERE WITH EM, LIKE IT OR NOT MATEY!

 
At 27/3/09 1:27 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Tim, he's couple of questions

What are the unemployment and imprisonment rates for Asians?

What are the unemployment and imprisonment rates for Maori?

Now who would you say is a drain on society?

 
At 27/3/09 1:35 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We shouldn't allow land purchases to non-citizens

Completely agree.

 
At 27/3/09 1:39 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are the unemployment and imprisonment rates for Asians?

What are the unemployment and imprisonment rates for Maori?

Now who would you say is a drain on society?


You're asking the wrong questions, you should be asking - why?

Why are our indigenous peoples faring so badly?

Why does the system lock up and brutalise young Maori men over all other groups?

 
At 27/3/09 2:03 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why does the system lock up and brutalise young Maori men over all other groups?"

You seem to be forgetting that you have to actually commit a pretty serious crime to land yourself in the slammer. Or are you suggesting we have squads going around randomly imprisoning and "brutalising" innocent young Maori men for shits and giggles?

Did it ever cross your very feeble mind that all these young Maori guys have to do to stay out of prison and prevent their certain "brutalising" is not commit the crimes that get them there in the first place?


For the record: I have no problem with asians migrating here - mostly good honest hardworking folk and their kids taking all the dux honours make the kiwi kids buck their ideas up. BUT I don't see the need for Asians to be buying NZ land for Asian only cemetaries and I don't want elderly unproductive people imigrating here sand sponging off our social welfare and health systems which they have never and never will contribute to.

 
At 27/3/09 4:38 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah I have to totally restrain myself from committing violent criminal acts on a hourly basis.

 
At 27/3/09 5:55 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no problems with Asians being buried here as long as they are buried on unproductive Maori land only.

 
At 27/3/09 6:50 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Did it ever cross your very feeble mind that all these young Maori guys have to do to stay out of prison and prevent their certain "brutalising" is not commit the crimes that get them there in the first place?"

Yeah but 'the system' forces them to rob, kill and rape innocent people. They don't do it of their own volition but there is no other action open to them.

The reason why Tim hates Asians so much is that they are a minority who were subjected to racism but through their own hard work, diligence and respect for education have managed to pull themselves up economically in the pakeha colonialist system and as such provide a strong contra argument to Tim's own excuses for Maori failure: that of white exploitation and colonisation.

I'd say the explanation is genetic.

 
At 27/3/09 7:31 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The explanation for Maori failure is that genetically, they are 99.99% identical to shit.

 
At 27/3/09 8:10 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Maori were lucky that they were colonised by the Pakeha. Given that there are no pure Maori in existence at least by widening the gene pool they avoid inbreeding common to many closed tribal societies.

Just look how many Arabs show signs of mental degradation through the tradition of marriage between cousins.

 
At 29/3/09 4:18 am, Anonymous behn bar bor? said...

Why are you allowing hate speech on this blog? I've got children who suffer from being verbally abused by mentally retarded people who have no rspect for others. NZ needs about 5 million more Asian people yesterday! Smile you'll be living next door to one soon. Mai behn lai!!!

 
At 29/3/09 4:23 am, Anonymous protestantworkethic said...

Anon 6.50 you are so right. Maori need to embrace there Polynasian roots and start doin the mahi!

 
At 29/3/09 4:33 am, Anonymous sawatdee said...

Really weird ideas Tim- like elderly Asian people are a real worry for you wannabes! You're just jealous mate- I'm really proud that my Kiwi kids first language is Thai- a language spoken by 68 million people. Get out of your fantasy world of 680 state sponsored te reo Maori speakers & smell the noodle soup cuz. Asian NZers are becomin the backbone of this country whether you like it or not. Lose the deficit mentality.

 
At 29/3/09 2:25 pm, Blogger Tim Selwyn said...

behn bar bor: Why are you allowing hate speech on this blog.

The comments on this thread are indicative of the mentality of immigrants (and their colonial offspring) and their attitudes - turning against Maori as is so often the case even though that is not the primary issue. While those views are offensive - they form the basis of governance in NZ.

 
At 29/3/09 5:12 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really Tim how did you expect people to respond to such a post, with applause?

 

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