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Thursday, January 29, 2009

Dirty filthy secret spying piggies


Spied on since she was 10
You are never too young to be regarded as a potential subversive, a Security Intelligence Service file shows.
Maire Leadbeater, now 63 and a long-time activist on peace issues, was an early target because of her Christchurch parents, Elsie and Jack Locke, who were prominent members of the New Zealand Communist Party and community activists. Elsie Locke left the Communist Party in 1956 when the Soviet Union invaded Hungary, but her husband stayed. One of Leadbeater's siblings is Green MP Keith Locke, a former Trotskyist and member of the Socialist Action League who has also received his SIS file. Leadbeater's file, which she received late last year, begins when she was 10, with a note that she delivered the Communist Party newspaper, the People's Voice, to the mother of twins in Bangor St, in central Christchurch. The next item refers to her membership of a junior drama group that the file says was connected with the William Morris (a Fabian socialist) Group, regarded by the SIS as a front for the Communist Party. Elsie Locke performed in the group. The file continues to track Leadbeater's life, although the SIS lost track of her when she married and took her husband's name. "They lost me for about 13 years," she said. Her file, like most of the others released, contains material from private meetings.

Dirty and filthy isn’t it, spying on children as young as 10 years of age in our own dear little NZ? One would hope that our security intelligence forces have become a lot more mature and less paranoid, but when you look at the Urewera 17 fiasco where an utter over kill by Police blew any credibility they had at identifying a possible threat posed by dungeons and dragons enthusiasts practicing with semi-automatics and the absolute disgraceful way Ahmed Zaoui was framed by the SIS when they knew he was innocent (can you believe we took the word of the French who instigated the coup against Zaoui that he was a terrorist when the French are the only country to have carried out a terrorist attack on NZ soil), and let's not forget the disgusting way Police have been handling their latest nark (payment in cash or drugs or both) to find out about the sex lives of activists, when boiled down one can only find a secret Police intelligence force devoid of any intelligence.

15 Comments:

At 29/1/09 9:44 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The SIS? Have a look at this!

http://www.bentcops.org/nzpolice/sis-and-police-cover-up-a-case-of-manslaughter/

 
At 29/1/09 9:55 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it a bit of a long bow to draw a connection between the cops' Urewera 17 operation and a creepy yet benign SIS operation from 1953?

LS

 
At 29/1/09 10:47 am, Anonymous deano said...

Oh the irony of a communist being spied on. In communist countries, being spied on by your government is the norm.

 
At 29/1/09 11:10 am, Anonymous Chris said...

Anon - I think it is a distant connection between Cold War activities and the Urewera, but it may be legitimate. The SIS probably still has many Cold War relics with the same defensive mind set from the 70's and 80's - I imagine the police is the same.

I think Bomber has a point that recent state actions may be over the top, I personally dont feel that way about the Urewera - but I do about the spying on the Green Party.

 
At 29/1/09 11:11 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So why were these communists meeting?

My guess is that thought, insanely, that NZ would be better off as a socialist state. Therefore the NZSIS were correct to place them under survaillance.

The only people who would argue that this is wrong would be those who seek to subvert our current system of democracy.

If you think communism was right go ask the Hungarians, Cambodians, East Germans and Czechs

 
At 29/1/09 11:18 am, Blogger Truth Seeker said...

Deano: Are you seriously advancing the standard of totalitarian communism as your standard? I thought we were different. Apparently not. So what is it they thought they were defending?

 
At 29/1/09 11:47 am, Anonymous >O said...

So, "dungeons and dragons enthusiasts practicing with semi-automatics" now eh Bradbury??? You've changed your tune...

After your unforgivable utterances back then, and of course the shameful "Stake Out", it's a wonder that you have the gall to assume you possess any credibility whatsoever!

 
At 29/1/09 12:12 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

So, "dungeons and dragons enthusiasts practicing with semi-automatics" now eh Bradbury??? You've changed your tune...
Not at all - I always said they weren't terrorists, my issue was activists picking up guns.

 
At 29/1/09 12:18 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many Stasi agents came to work for the SIS after the wall came down? Or did the CIA take them all? I bet those SIS goons read this blog all the time! lol

 
At 29/1/09 1:05 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

whats wrong with playing dungeons and dragons?

 
At 29/1/09 1:05 pm, Anonymous deano said...

Truth Seeker: I am not in favour of Orwellian secret police in a democratic country, but keeping tabs on people with radical views may be worthwhile. In the society Leadbetter wished for, she would be spied on constantly. And possibly end up in a gulag or dead. Oh I forgot, just because communism has never worked in reality, it doesn't mean the idea of communism isn't bad.

Yeah right.

 
At 29/1/09 1:10 pm, Anonymous deano said...

>0: The fact that Bomber is a radical lefty activist, but can make his own call on the terrorism arrests, shows he considers each issue on its merits, instead of blindly supporting gun wielding lunatics, just because he shares some similar political views with them. Good on him.

 
At 29/1/09 1:29 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bomber has been rejected by the activist community ever since he came out on the side of the state since the Uruwera raids.

There is a lot of hate out there for him from the people I talk to.

 
At 29/1/09 3:44 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leadbetter's taking Indonesia to task over East Timor has to be applauded.

Having said that: given the unspeakable horrors being carried out by communist regimes around the world at that time, the SIS were right to be keeping tabs on these people. Especially seeing as they were actively involving and indoctrinating their kids with this murderous philosophy.


...Green MP Keith Locke, a former Trotskyist and member of the Socialist Action League...

Isn't the double standard in this country disgusting?
They can mention this clowns communist past like its no big thing, but just imagine if he had been a former Facsist and member of the National Front! He would have been hung drawn and quartered by the media years ago. He's got about as much place in parliment as Kyle Chapman.

When will NZers wake up to the fact the Communism was as bad (if not worse) than Nazism?

 
At 29/1/09 4:46 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"..Green MP Keith Locke, a former Trotskyist and member of the Socialist Action League..."

And apologist for the soviet invasion of afghanistan.

 

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