Where we at NZ?


With the global collapse of greedy corporate capitalism set to get much worse than previously predicted…
The Worst is not behind us
Beware, therefore, of those who tell you that we have reached a bottom for risky financial assets. The same optimists told you that we reached a bottom and the worst was behind us after the rescue of the creditors of Bear Stearns in March; after the announcement of the possible bailout of Fannie and Freddie in July; after the actual bailout of Fannie and Freddie in September; after the bailout of AIG; in mid-September; after the TARP legislation was presented; and after the latest G-7 and E.U. action.
In each case, the optimists argued that the latest crisis and rescue policy response was the cathartic event that signaled the bottom of the crisis and the recovery of markets. They were wrong literally at least six times in a row as the crisis--as I have consistently predicted over the last year--became worse and worse. So enough of the excessive optimism that has been proved wrong at least six times in the last eight months alone.
Professor Nouriel Roubini
Forbes columnist
…and with our own economy set for meltdown with 50 000 new unemployment fears rapidly becoming a reality with lay offs being announced daily now and a middle class property speculation that fuelled a credit card lifestyle showing signs of absolute collapse with a 6% drop in valuations predicted to hit a 30% drop in valuation…
House sales in record slump
House sales volumes fell by a record amount in the first half of 2008, a report by economic consultants Infometrics shows. Findings released today show property sales volumes slumped 44.3 percent compared to the same period in 2007, exceeding the previous record decline of 39.4 percent set in the second half of 1974.
…and what is our response to this in NZ? A hard right Daddy State mACTional coalition led by the Beige Obama change merchant with Maori Party moderate window dressing and a cabinet more akin to a gallery of rogues from the failures of the 90s privatization agenda cherry topped by a patsy Minister of Social Development who will soft face the deep cuts in social funding National and ACT intend to have her sell to the public. The release of what National and ACT intend to try and ram through Parliament gives us some unpleasant reading, as the very brilliant Gordon Campbell points out on Scoop…
Like other Act policies, the Taxpayers Bill of Rights Bill has been borrowed lock, stock and barrel from a US model – namely, the Taxpayer Bill of Rights Act aka TABOR, which was passed into law in Colorado in 1992. The state of Colorado has since found TABOR to be highly controversial, and has passed special exemptions – amendment 23 in 1999 for instance, raised the spending levels on early childhood education - in order to get around the rigid spending cap that TABOR had imposed.
Unfortunately, the exemption granted to kindergarten / primary school education spending has been at the expense of other social needs, with higher education and transportation being especially hard hit.
TABOR and reality have been on a collision course ever since. In 2005, Colorado voted to give itself a five year holiday from TABOR altogether, to allow the state’s finances a chance to recover. Ironically, shortly after Coloradans voted to free themselves from TABOR, Rodney Hide introduced the same measures into Parliament in 2006, in the shape of a private members bill.
The preamble to Hide’s Bill explicitly noted its origins in Colorado, and acknowledged that the proposal had already failed by saying “Last year, Colorado voters allowed their politicians to breach the spending cap…” It is now being revived, and fast tracked by John Key.
In sum, New Zealand is about to adopt as an instrument of restraint on government spending, a measure known to have already caused havoc, division and shortfalls in public service provision in its state of origin. The detailed evidence of TABOR’s flaws is contained in this extensive Bell Policy Center Report
So how do the TABOR mechanisms actually work ? As in Colorado, the measures Hide has been proposing would limit the growth rate of the revenues that government can collect and spend, and allow them to be adjusted upwards only to compensate for inflation and population growth, and nothing else. Not wage increases, or a desire to improve services. If revenues exceed the prior year’s allocation, this is returned to taxpayers as a rebate.
Crucially, the measure has a rachet down effect on public services. During boom times, central and local governments are prevented from using the higher revenues to expand or to improve public services, or to save for a rainy day. Moreover, because revenues will fall during a recession, the year-to-year measurement will mean that the new base for determining spending growth will become the low revenue point created by the recession. Hence, the TABOR approach renders permanent any cuts to public services that are imposed during bad years.
How’s that change feeling now NZ? It’s just like Barack Obama eh, getting the feeling yet that NZers were conned into believing the change and moderation spin job yet? See the problem is we needed change in NZ, but certainly not the ‘change’ that mACTional will provide, the type of change we desperately need is the exact change that Professor Klaus Bosselmann the director of the NZ Centre for Environmental Law is talking about…
Putting steel into the fight to save Earth
Humans have overstepped the threshold of sustainability. In the mid-1980s, the capacity of the planet to sustain its human population had reached 100 per cent. The current population now has an ecological footprint equal to 1.25 planets.
If those people who live in the so-called Third World catch up with the lifestyle in the US or New Zealand, we need 4.5 planets.
We are facing one simple loss - our own disappearance from the planet, which itself will continue to live. We need to drastically reduce our ecological footprint.
Individual actions are of limited use. Making the changes requires regulatory and policy changes that strongly enforce footprint-reducing actions. In short, we need mutual coercion, mutually agreed upon.
Environmental law differs from the rest of law with its peculiar space and time dimensions. How to regulate human behaviour in the Here and Now to avoid disaster in the There and Then?
The problem is to reconcile two extreme positions. On the one hand, people living today have a right to pursue their prosperity and well-being, but in doing so they collectively threaten the environment.
On the other hand, the environment demands responsibilities from us now so it can be preserved for the future. To date, rights have trumped responsibilities.
This tragedy is caused by short-sighted economic rationality which has shaped both the capitalist and socialist worlds.
Media attention on issues like climate change and food prices has increased. But the links between ecology and economy are still made only in terms of costs.
Typically, the environment is presented as an economic cost factor, not as a challenge to the economy itself. Financial markets seem to operate in complete independence from the state of the environment.
Governments compartmentalise the environment. There is a Ministry for the Environment but Treasury determines public policy. There are environmental policies but politicians are eager to point out they won't harm the economy. There are environmental laws, but isolated from commercial laws.
Partially protecting the environment in competition with economic objectives is ecological nonsense. Imagine a child protection law that says: "Do not beat your child too often and too much." Environmental law does just that: "Do not pollute the environment too often and too much."
The flawed thinking behind such environmentalism is the assumption that the environmental crisis can be solved within the current economic, political and legal system without challenging underlying values.
And those underlying values of unsustainable growth at any cost is exactly what mACTional will promote as a way out of the economic position those exact same values have led us into, National’s agenda is not ‘moderate’ and their ‘change’ will be deeply detrimental, but then again NZers might already have known all of this if the mainstream media had actually done it’s job and evaluated what National Party policy might actually do if implemented rather than focusing on the crucifixion of Winston Peters for something the Electoral Commission, Serious Fraud Office and the Police eventually cleared him on.
A hard rain is gonna fall and when the Daddy State starts taking effect, I can bet no one will be jumping up and down about Nanny State lightbulbs or shower heads in a years time.








31 Comments:
Ok it's a date see you next year
Right on Brother Bomber, right on. Don't you right wing trolls have anything better to do?
Bomber, the spot price for brent crude has fallen to $US49.
Care to make any comment on that?
TABOR may be an obvious danger to people who are curious and pay attention.
The job that group will face is trying to explain it to the rest of the population.....who mostly lack the background knowledge about how government works to even understand what you're talking about. Their eyes glaze over unless you're talking about something irrelevant and trivial.
I know you're trying to get 'Mactional' into everyday usage...but the truth is it just sounds a bit shit.
At least the right-wingers had the rather clever 'Helengrad', whereas
'Mactional' just comes across as a left-leaning version of the lame and dreary 'Liarbour'.
Agreed 5:15
Bomber can you think up something less lame. As a rightist it means nothing insulting to me. Think of something more catchy, that daddy state shit doesn't cut it either.
How’s that change feeling now NZ?
Care to explain how Labour would have shielded us from those 50,000 job losses? How about the housing boom - which happened on Labour's watch?
"The job that group will face is trying to explain it to the rest of the population.....who mostly lack the background knowledge about how government works to even understand what you're talking about."
Really, it's good that we have 'chosen ones' like you truthseeker to guide us into making the most 'appropriate' decision.
The most stupid voters I've come across have been green/labour supporters who think they're voting for a party of social conscience. Don't vote national because they will just implment the failed social policies of the 90s. Hello leftard douche Labour didn't even raise benefit levels.
You're the same 'truthseeker' you fall for the same propaganda and you call yourself enlightened.
you are a joke.
Things are just going to get worse and worse at an increasing rate over the next few years and our current lifestyle is never going to recover. Ever. The only way out of this is for humanity to finally grow the f**k up, take some responsibility and birth something completely new out of the chaos to come. It's time to stop looking outside for help (god, government, whatever), get out of our victim consciousness and take control of the situation, our lives, that we've created in our greed, arrogance and ignorance. We've raped the planet, and raping it some more certainly isn't going to solve the problem. We grow up and think "that's life", join society in turning the other cheek when something's not right and get on with our own lives to try and better them for ourselves. If everyone just think's "that's life" then nothing ever changes, and now it's at the point where "that life" is no longer sustainable. All National will achieve is sealing our fate, faster - our fate as things currently stand. WE have to want the change and WE have to create that change TOGETHER, and I’m certainly not talking about National's idea of "change". It's time to look within, grab a bloody crowbar and wrench open your manipulated, brainwashed, malnourished, diseased and deluded minds. Find the courage to accept that we've been lied to, and we've been lied to about a lot. Find your childhood inquisition and start asking again. Search for the truth that's everywhere if you'll just look for it, the truth that is your right to know, just waiting for a quorum of enough people to wake up to it and then do something with that knowledge. Start following logic instead of the heard. We need to stop the damage to the planet, hell maybe we could even try reversing some of it, unless of course the idea of a pole shift is appealing to you. Even other expressions of life are creating crop circles to try and help the planet maintain some sort of balance, while we all look the other way and turn a blind eye to the real issues and the highly plausible possibilities that surround us. If we can't find ourselves amongst this mess, start respecting ourselves, each other and the planet that makes our lives possible in everyway, then it's goodbye humanity and goodbye earth. Extinction and destruction will be the seeds we reap. Buy a bike, start a veggie garden and tell a friend. If you don't face reality, sooner or later reality will face you.
I like mACTional Bomber.
I am already using it and Daddy State in my day to day conversations.
Keep it up.
I love this clear line of divide these self proclaimed right wingers think of in terms of NZ politics. Us and them.
The truth is nACTional got in because of the swing voters.
Not because of people that have voted Right their whole lives.
The swing voters will wake up..or just change their minds... 3 years can't come soon enough.
Bomber, the spot price for brent crude has fallen to $US49.
Care to make any comment on that?
Yes the global economic climate destroyed demand, the same forces that were creating massive upswing price movements like peak oil are still there, but the suddeness of the economic meltdown is reflected in the incredible drop in oil.
I know you're trying to get 'Mactional' into everyday usage...but the truth is it just sounds a bit shit.
At least the right-wingers had the rather clever 'Helengrad', whereas
'Mactional' just comes across as a left-leaning version of the lame and dreary 'Liarbour'.
Easy champ, pretending the right wing are more creative suggests you've hit the cool aid. Mactional is just a way of describing the coalition, my personal likes are the beige obama, referring to Paula Bennet as Lee harvy oswald and the daddy state.
Bomber can you think up something less lame. As a rightist it means nothing insulting to me. Think of something more catchy, that daddy state shit doesn't cut it either.
It's my hope to have used the term a million times before th next election.
Care to explain how Labour would have shielded us from those 50,000 job losses? How about the housing boom - which happened on Labour's watch?
Phil can do that for you in 3 years time can't he?
The truth is nACTional got in because of the swing voters.
Not because of people that have voted Right their whole lives.
The swing voters will wake up..or just change their minds... 3 years can't come soon enough.
This is BULLSHIT the reason nACTional got in was because Labour and Greens voters in Auckland didn't vote, we had the second lowest turn out in a century. Hardly a ringing endorsement
"Easy champ, pretending the right wing are more creative suggests you've hit the cool aid."
And I think trying to demonise anyone from the right by suggesting they're incapable of a basic human trait like creativity is being wilfully obtuse.
"my personal likes are the beige obama, referring to Paula Bennet as Lee harvy oswald and the daddy state."
But by applying these labels like these you come across as spiteful and vindictive. How about trying to raise above the base insults of the right by avoiding petty name-calling?
And how about giving Paula Bennett a chance to before declaring her a failure?
And I think trying to demonise anyone from the right by suggesting they're incapable of a basic human trait like creativity is being wilfully obtuse.
Wifully Obtuse is my middle name
But by applying these labels like these you come across as spiteful and vindictive.
No, no, no, only to those whom they bite to the bone would consider them vindictive and spiteful, I had to put up with your lot screaming hatefully about the nanny state myth for 9 years and I'm not allowed to talk about the reality of the hard right Daddy State? John Key announces his comparison to Obama and I can't call him the Beige Obama, Paula is being set up as the biggest patsy since Lee Harvy Oswald with Rodney's Razer Gang about to hack away at social spending and I can't comment on that reality because you consider it vindictive and spiteful?
How about trying to raise above the base insults of the right by avoiding petty name-calling?
Oh after 9 years of hearing your lot scream about political correctness you now want the moral high ground? Oh please, you want the left to go easy on you now your crazy mates in ACT are in power with their crank science on global warming and the chance for Rodders to implement TABOR's that have a track record of being destructive to communities overseas?
And how about giving Paula Bennett a chance to before declaring her a failure?
She is being set up as a patsy.
Nice to see you automatically assume I'm a right-winger. I'm not.
I just see merit in havng mature debate rather than stooping to Kiwiblog-style attacks.
Bomber, you're the first to complain when someone puts words in your mouth. John Key didn't directly compare himself to Obama - and you surely know you're quoting him out of context.
There are plenty of ways to hold the new govt to account without bending the truth.
Again, I don't vote right, I'm not thrilled about the new government, but I'm not going to resort to kicking and screaming and making up names to convey my displeasure.
What nothing to retort about the actual issues Anon on the global warming bullshit of ACT or their TABOR plans - no mention at all huh just some weak claim you don't vote right and you kicking and screaming that you don't like the way I say things.
As for the beige obama and the 'change' he is bringing to NZ - let's be clear Key did compare himself in the Singapore Times interview, the same interview that noted after Key had made the comparison that he would be the least experienced PM in a 100 years.
Let's be clear, this is the quote:
"I'm a bit like Obama...I am not institutionalised in Wellington"
Not the greatest comparison, granted, but I think the intention of his comment is quite clear. To suggest John Key was claiming to be Barack of the Beehive is pushing it.
"What nothing to retort about the actual issues Anon"
I never said I disagreed on those. What I disagree with are your attempts to obfuscate and dumb down the debate with childish labels and catchphrases. How can you ever expect to convince people to your way of thinking when your stock response is to mock and attack?
"you kicking and screaming that you don't like the way I say things"
Now, now, only one of us is getting carried away with the histrionics.
"I'm a bit like Obama...I am not institutionalised in Wellington"
Right so he did in fact compare himself and the Singapore Times retorted it was an indication of how in-experienced he was.
Not the greatest comparison, granted, but I think the intention of his comment is quite clear. To suggest John Key was claiming to be Barack of the Beehive is pushing it.
I didn't call him the Barack of the Beehive, I called him the beige obama.
I never said I disagreed on those. What I disagree with are your attempts to obfuscate and dumb down the debate with childish labels and catchphrases. How can you ever expect to convince people to your way of thinking when your stock response is to mock and attack?
So the actual issues at hand Anon, TABOR and the destruction of environmental law, oh those you have no beef with, just the way I say things, well perhaps that's your problem Anon, am I personally twisting your arm to log on and read my opinion Anon am I?
"I called him the beige obama"
I wouldn't go boasting about that.
"perhaps that's your problem Anon"
Perhaps, but it'll be your problem when your opinions and viewpoints are regarded with the same contempt currently reserved for the likes of Redbaiter and Fairfacts Media.
Bomber - Nick Smith is the minister for climate change. He doesnt seem a denier to me? Yeh Act is at the table, but we need to keep it in perspective - they don't have the portfolios. So I think its a stretch to say their are deniers running environmental law. Key himself says he believes in anthropogenic climate change.
With regards to social spending. Noting that tax revenue is likely to fall, particularly on corporate tax take and GST, which would you prefer Bomber
1) Government spending is cut to compensate
2) The government borrows to make up the shortfall (and I am not referring to capital expenditure here)
3) The government increases taxes to compensate losses
4) The government cuts taxes to stimulate demand to help economic growth
Bomber - Nick Smith is the minister for climate change. He doesnt seem a denier to me? Yeh Act is at the table, but we need to keep it in perspective - they don't have the portfolios. So I think its a stretch to say their are deniers running environmental law. Key himself says he believes in anthropogenic climate change.
Nick Smith does not believe Global Warming is as serious as has been suggested. I interviewed him last year during Greenpeace's protest. As for the rest of what you have written, I believe Mr Rudman explains why you are so very wrong.
With regards to social spending. Noting that tax revenue is likely to fall, particularly on corporate tax take and GST, which would you prefer Bomber
1) Government spending is cut to compensate
2) The government borrows to make up the shortfall (and I am not referring to capital expenditure here)
3) The government increases taxes to compensate losses
4) The government cuts taxes to stimulate demand to help economic growth
Right so Paula 'lee harvey oswald' Bennet is going to be used as a patsy then.
I wouldn't go boasting about that.
Hey it was Key who reinforced the change spin and his stunned rabbit look when he won added to the beige obama line, it fits him well.
Perhaps, but it'll be your problem when your opinions and viewpoints are regarded with the same contempt currently reserved for the likes of Redbaiter and Fairfacts Media.
Again I managed to somehow twist your arm to come back to a blog you can't stand because of the way I say things - note not the actual debate, the fact we have climate deniers running environmental law or TABOR and the tragedy that has created for Colorado, oh no - just the way I say things like the reality of the hard right Daddy State as opposed to the myth of the nanny state, or mocking the change spin by referring to key as the beige obama, did you also have a problem with me comparing rodney hide to a farangi? How about you give me a list of satire that is acceptable to your precious sensibilities so I can avoid hurting them.
"With regards to social spending. Noting that tax revenue is likely to fall, particularly on corporate tax take and GST, which would you prefer Bomber
1) Government spending is cut to compensate
2) The government borrows to make up the shortfall (and I am not referring to capital expenditure here)
3) The government increases taxes to compensate losses
4) The government cuts taxes to stimulate demand to help economic growth
Right so Paula 'lee harvey oswald' Bennet is going to be used as a patsy then"
Which option do you prefer?
Right so Paula 'lee harvey oswald' Bennet is going to be used as a patsy then"
"the same interview that noted after Key had made the comparison that he would be the least experienced PM in a 100 years."
And how much experience has the real Obama got? A lot less than Mcain but you'd still support Obama over Mcain. Which makes your point utterly worthless when one closely examines it.
Sloppy thinking bomber, very sloppy.
"the same interview that noted after Key had made the comparison that he would be the least experienced PM in a 100 years."
And how much experience has the real Obama got? A lot less than Mcain but you'd still support Obama over Mcain. Which makes your point utterly worthless when one closely examines it.
Sloppy thinking bomber, very sloppy.
How does this connect with John Key and his singapore times interview - Obama may have been short on experience but I think we can all agree as an orator he is possibly one of the greats of our time, are you seriously suggesting John Key is one of the greatest orators of our time?
And you accuse me of sloppy thinking.
Yawn. Key's point was that he is not institutionalized in wellington. He has had real life business experiance, rather than simply climbing the ladder of a political party. He was drawing a comparison to Obama, who ran on the "Im not of Washington" line (which, incidentally, he seems to be going back on by appointing a number of insiders)
YAWN - so he did compare himself and you want to desperatly downplay it?
Bomber brought up Key's inexperience and was contradicted by his support of Obama. So he simply changed the subject (Barack is a great orator).
Very sloppy.
Bomber brought up Key's inexperience and was contradicted by his support of Obama. So he simply changed the subject (Barack is a great orator).
Very sloppy.
How does this connect with John Key and his singapore times interview - Obama may have been short on experience but I think we can all agree as an orator he is possibly one of the greats of our time, are you seriously suggesting John Key is one of the greatest orators of our time? Both are short on experience but Obama has MUCH more going for him than John Key and trying to tie them together to make the point you are desperately trying to make here goes well beyond sloppy thinking.
And you accuse me of sloppy thinking.
There you go again trying to divert the argument away from your original point.
Your single criticism at that time was that JK's lack of experience made him unsuitable to be PM.
Your single criticism at that time was that JK's lack of experience made him unsuitable to be PM.
I'm not diverting at all, that critcism stands.
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