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Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Latest Winston 'scandal' - compared to National scandal about to drop


PM admits scotching consul bid
Prime Minister Helen Clark has admitted she scotched Winston Peters' attempts to appoint Owen Glenn as honorary consul to Monaco after hearing the billionaire had given her foreign minister $100,000. The revelation late yesterday came as Clark sought to distance herself from a fresh scandal enveloping the New Zealand First leader over his dealings with Glenn and the businessman's bid for a diplomatic post. Papers released under the Official Information Act yesterday to TVNZ show Peters was involved in trying to get Glenn appointed as New Zealand's honorary consul to Monaco. Peters has maintained that he had little to do with Glenn's unsuccessful bid to be appointed as honorary consul in his adopted home. But email correspondence between officials in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade shows Peters pushed the case hard and gave his department a hurry-up for not moving fast enough on the appointment, asking New Zealand's Ambassador in France to meet urgently with Glenn in Monaco about the role.

Oh for God’s sake – YAWN! So what Peters pushed for Owen to be looked at, it was turned down, they even ended up suggesting someone else who lives in Monaco all the time rather than the 3 months Owen spends there. This is tired and is nothing compared to what is about to be released regarding National. If I were John Key, I’d be a lot more worried about what is about to drop than papers showing Winston pushed to see if Owen was acceptable for Monaco, my guess is that no one will be talking about Winston and Owen next week.


UPDATE:

Cash not linked to Monaco role - Glenn and Peters
New Zealand First leader Winston Peters and billionaire Owen Glenn both say there was no connection between a large donation to the party and Mr Peters backing the expatriate's bid for a diplomatic position. Mr Glenn gave NZ First $100,000 and Mr Peters, in his role as Foreign Minister, supported his bid to become honorary consul of Monaco. Mr Peters, stood down from his ministerial roles while donation allegations are investigated, has maintained he did not know about the donation to his party but Parliament's privileges committee found he did and it heard evidence that he asked for the money. Official documents released yesterday showed an email trail in which Mr Peters pushed the Foreign Affairs Ministry (Mfat) hard to have Mr Glenn appointed to the position. Mr Peters told Radio New Zealand today that he only ever asked the ministry to investigate the merit in appointing an honorary consul in Monaco, and he did not push for any particular person to be appointed to the role.

However, among the documents released was an April 19, 2007, memo from Mfat chief executive Simon Murdoch which said Mr Peters "wants to appoint an honorary consul in Monaco. It is a distinguished expat of his choice". Another memo talks about Mr Peters being annoyed progress was so slow. Mr Peters said the decision on an appointment in Monaco was subject to the same "tardy" decision-making by Mfat that he experienced over a decision on a similar appointment in the Ukraine, and the organisation of his trip to North Korea. "I wanted them to give me the answer - do we need a consul today, in 2007, in Monaco and, if so, would you check this man (Mr Glenn) out." When the ministry came back and said a consul was not needed in Monaco "that was the end of it", Mr Peters said. Mr Glenn told Newstalk ZB he initially told Labour Party president Mike Williams he would like to be honorary consul in Monaco because New Zealand was not represented. The suggestion was passed to Prime Minister Helen Clark and Mr Glenn said he was then told by Mr Williams there was no objection but the decision lay with Mr Peters. Mr Glenn said Mr Peters "favoured the idea". He later gave $100,000 to Mr Peters but said there was no connection between that donation and the honorary consul's position. "These are separate things. I am trying to be a nice New Zealander if you like and people are trying to make something that is serious out of it."


Isn't it nice to see that both dear old crocodiles can at least get one part of their story straight and that is apparently in the world of nudge, nudge, wink, wink one can still have chinese walls created to help focus oneself on the issues at hand. My guess is that come next week - perhaps Wednesday before the election, we won't be talking about Winston.

24 Comments:

At 29/10/08 8:04 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this wasn't an election year bomber would you still be so cavalier over Winston's behaivour?

Good to see that an MP attempting to sell off consulships and giving perks to whoever pays him doesn't worry you.

Now if NZFirst went with National, I wonder what your attitude to Winston would be.

 
At 29/10/08 8:08 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh for God's sake. It's scandAL.

 
At 29/10/08 8:14 am, Blogger Bomber said...

If this wasn't an election year bomber would you still be so cavalier over Winston's behaivour?

Good to see that an MP attempting to sell off consulships and giving perks to whoever pays him doesn't worry you.

Now if NZFirst went with National, I wonder what your attitude to Winston would be.


I don't think John Key could take Winston back after ruling him out, even if it was a toss up between NZ First and the Maori Party - I think you have a problem reading Anonymous poster, I say that this 'scandle' will pale in comparison with what is about to be dropped on National. Like I said, I don't think anyone will be discussing Winston and Owen next week.

 
At 29/10/08 8:15 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what is about to drop on National? Care to tell us, or were you told by your labour baddies (who you have been sucking up to so much lately) on the condition you don't tell until they do?

 
At 29/10/08 8:25 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it is no big deal, why did Clark and peters fight so hard to keep this information secret?

 
At 29/10/08 8:30 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's right, Bomber is going to tell the anonymous poster who has just insulted him what he knows. These right wing anonymous posters, you can't make this stuff up.

DW

 
At 29/10/08 9:45 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

But but but National's scandal is worse! Worse I tell you! Why do you keep talking about poor Winston? blub blub

 
At 29/10/08 10:21 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bomber, it's only Wed - you can't drop a teaser like that and then make us wait until next week. Couldn't we just have a tiny clue?? Pleeeese!

 
At 29/10/08 10:27 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Been waiting with bated breath for the " Neutron Bomb" you alluded to a few months back - I sure as hell hope its not more cocktail party recordings.

Personally I look forward to something which might waken voters from their stupor , if i hear one more person saying " i've always voted Labour but now i'm going to vote national" i'll scream - talk about turkeys voting for an early xmas !!

Oh...and suddenly your word verification has gotten easier ... now i can just spell out words... SOOOO much easier than the jumble of letters I always seem to strike, is this just a fluke or deliberate ?

 
At 29/10/08 10:37 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh what a fucking surprise.

Bomber, the craven, frightened labour supporter attempt to swep under the carpet a scandal involving a foreign billionaire trying to buy the favour from a right wing racist politician.

Is there no level to which you wouldn't debase yourself to keep your beloved helen clark in power?

PS clown it wasn't the labour govnt which jailed your little crim mate, it was the police and the justice system.

Your're a disgrace to the left bomber.

 
At 29/10/08 11:06 am, Blogger Bomber said...

Oh what a fucking surprise.

Bomber, the craven, frightened labour supporter

Oh for the love of Christ, for what must be the 10millionth time I - DON'T - VOTE - LABOUR, they jailed my mate for sedition, jailed my other mate Ahemd for 10 months solitary and stole Maori Land, I am not a Labour Party supporter!


attempt to swep under the carpet
No I'm not - I'm saying these points don't prove what is being declared as a smoking gun, Winston pushed and it was turned down and in comparison I don't think the country will be talking about Winston next week!

a scandal involving a foreign billionaire
I've been highly critical of Owen...

trying to buy the favour from a right wing racist politician.
....and I've been critical of Winston!

Is there no level to which you wouldn't debase yourself to keep your beloved helen clark in power?
AGAIN - I - DON'T - VOTE - LABOUR, they jailed my mate for sedition, jailed my other mate Ahmed Zaoui for 10 months solitary and stole Maori Land, I am not a Labour Party supporter!
I support their policy above that of National's - how does that make Helen my beloved or that I am craven - has this been written by Mathew Hooten? Has it? Mat are you posting anonymously here?

PS clown it wasn't the labour govnt which jailed your little crim mate, it was the police and the justice system.
After he put an Axe through the Prime Ministers window.

Your're a disgrace to the left bomber.
That's such a Mathew Hooten thing to say, come on Matt what about a drink!

 
At 29/10/08 12:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

But but but National's scandal is worse! Worse I tell you! Why do you keep talking about poor Winston? blub blub

Heh, too right.

Bomber is so desperate to make us believe National is the boogie man that he is no purposely ignoring Helen Clark bald faced lies.

Clark claimed yesterday that she put an end to of Owen Glenn getting a consulship when she heard that there was money involved in December. This was 3 months before her previous acknowledgement of knowing about the Owen Glenn donation to Winston Peters.

Helen Clark is a fucking liar.

Bomber won't mention it though because he wants us all to concentrate on how evil he thinks National is.

Let me guess your response Bomber:

'Waaaaaaaaaaa! I. don't. vote. labour.'

Perhaps not, but you are more than happy to turn a blind eye to their lies and deceit.

 
At 29/10/08 12:18 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Basically he's like those Germans who claimed they were unaware of the holocost despite living next to nazi death camps and pretended not to notice the smell of jews being burned in ovens.

See no evil hear not evil.

If you are not a labour supporter who all the pro labour posts.

 
At 29/10/08 12:26 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Your're a disgrace to the left bomber.
That's such a Mathew Hooten thing to say, come on Matt what about a drink!"

As a socialist I suppose you expect others to pay the tab?

If this was mathew hooton I'd be calling you the fucking cunt that you are.

 
At 29/10/08 12:28 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

Bomber is so desperate to make us believe National is the boogie man that he is no purposely ignoring Helen Clark bald faced lies.
Not at all, I'm not her defender, go ahead kick away!

Clark claimed yesterday that she put an end to of Owen Glenn getting a consulship when she heard that there was money involved in December. This was 3 months before her previous acknowledgement of knowing about the Owen Glenn donation to Winston Peters.
She certainly has some explaining to do over that

Helen Clark is a fucking liar.
It certainly appears that way, I'd like to see her answer to that.

Bomber won't mention it though because he wants us all to concentrate on how evil he thinks National is.
Mention away, I'm not Labours defender - but I certainly believe National have an agenda that want to slide under the radar and I think come next week people won't be talking about Winston.

Let me guess your response Bomber:

'Waaaaaaaaaaa! I. don't. vote. labour.'

No, I've made my response above.

Perhaps not, but you are more than happy to turn a blind eye to their lies and deceit.
Where anywhere in this post have I done that?

AND NOW THE ICING ON THE RIGHT WING CAKE FOLKS....

Basically he's like those Germans who claimed they were unaware of the holocost despite living next to nazi death camps and pretended not to notice the smell of jews being burned in ovens.

That's right folks I'm now a Nazi because I think next week people won't be talking about winston and they will be talking about John Key and the National Party. Amazing leap of logic there from the right.

 
At 29/10/08 12:31 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

As a socialist I suppose you expect others to pay the tab?
Actually Mat always pays the tab

If this was mathew hooton I'd be calling you the fucking cunt that you are.
Now that's just unpleasant isn't it folks? Why do the Right always get icky with the insults? I wonder how nasty the barbs will get if National can't cut a deal with the Maori Party?

 
At 29/10/08 1:05 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one's calling you a nazi, we're just observing that you forgive the left's attack on the democratic structure as justifiable while attacking the purest form of democracy, a referendom on MMP because you don't like it's effect on the greens.

diddums to that.

 
At 29/10/08 1:17 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

No one's calling you a nazi, we're just observing that you forgive the left's attack on the democratic structure as justifiable while attacking the purest form of democracy, a referendom on MMP because you don't like it's effect on the greens.

diddums to that.


No, that's not what is being said at all, you are claiming I'm a nazi sympathiser living in Nazi Germany looking the other way from the murder of millions of people, again your quote anonymous poster...

Basically he's like those Germans who claimed they were unaware of the holocost despite living next to nazi death camps and pretended not to notice the smell of jews being burned in ovens.

That's a pretty disgusting claim to make. Whose word are you taking on the Monaco deal, Peter's or Owen's because both say it wasn't connected. That's your evidence to connect me to Nazi sympathisers who turned a blind eye to the muder of millions, two old men saying the $100 000 wan't connected to a petty Honorarium? ? What a disgusting thing to claim, I understand why you post anonymously.

 
At 29/10/08 1:36 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a joe-elle lunchbox, i know which of the two evils i prefer - and it ain't the Tories !!
trying to paint labour as some kind of facist regime is quite a stretch
Under Labour our household has benefitted from subsidised medical fees, prescription fees, my parents have both enjoyed first rate hospital care over the past 3 years , twice in ICU and my mother is having cataracts treated after being on a waiting list for 6 weeks.
My son has had first rate treatment - under ACC - for a knee injury suffered at work and my grandchildren both attend public schools which offer them a very good education.

Stop your friggin moaning, this isn't a third world country by any stretch, we enjoy a good standard of living, in the main. I do realize that there are large amounts of people who are suffering hardship, poor housing, low wages etc etc, but while you cry for tax cuts don't you realise that every tax cut takes away $$ from health, education etc etc.
If you want a free big screen plasma tv and lattes every day go vote for McGillicuddy serious... meantime stop your effin whinging.
If you seriously think slippery john and his roundtable lackeys are going to improve the lot of working people in NZ you have another think coming.

 
At 29/10/08 3:45 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which begs the question why should our children go without so that the govnt can employ another policy analyst or upgrade it's limo fleet.

Why don't you stop you're whining when it's clear that most people would rather have that extra dollar in their pocket than going to the above.

What the fuck have labour done of the poor of this country anyway. Benefits cuts are still in place and working for families havn't been extended to beneficaries.

You're all fools who have been blinded by the potomkin socialism of labour's.

 
At 29/10/08 5:36 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh shit! http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10539975

That's it?!?!?!

That's your smoking gun?

This is what what you have been so smug about?

LOL! Nuetron bomb - more like double-happy!

"Gee who paid for John Key's lunch!? This is an Outrage! Stop the press!"

If this is the best Labour can do do, leaking this "scandal" to winston, and to the likes of you, then they are DESPERATE.

They even had to bring the release forward one day because the Glen/Clark/Peters story is gaining too much traction. No Wonder you were so DESPERATE to try and play Clark's lies down as no big thing.

A neutron bomb of DESPERATION, you can't make this shit up.

 
At 29/10/08 6:24 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

Oh shit! http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10539975

That's it?!?!?!

That's your smoking gun?

This is what what you have been so smug about?

LOL! Nuetron bomb - more like double-happy!

"Gee who paid for John Key's lunch!? This is an Outrage! Stop the press!"

If this is the best Labour can do do, leaking this "scandal" to winston, and to the likes of you, then they are DESPERATE.

They even had to bring the release forward one day because the Glen/Clark/Peters story is gaining too much traction. No Wonder you were so DESPERATE to try and play Clark's lies down as no big thing.

A neutron bomb of DESPERATION, you can't make this shit up.


Two things
1: No
2: Do you honestly think this latest story has played out in full do you?

You can't make this stuff up.

 
At 29/10/08 9:30 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

2: Do you honestly think this latest story has played out in full do you?

Sure, why not? After all just this morning you were yawning and declared the owen/clark/glen shenanigans to be old news. So if Clark lying to the people of NZ as little as 2 months ago is a non-story, why should we care about who picked up john key's lunch bill in 1991?

If Mike williams flying to australia on tax payer's dime to rifle through old court documents to see if key buys his on lunch isn't DESPERATE, I'm fucked if I know what is.

 
At 30/10/08 8:11 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

2: Do you honestly think this latest story has played out in full do you?

LOL, I guess you were right Bomber, this story isn't over: It is now blowing up in Labour's DESPERATE faces big time!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz-election-2008/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501799&objectid=10540101

Doncha just love that grin Bomber?

 

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