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Monday, September 29, 2008

Whitey wins again?


National to dump Maori seats in 2014 and MMP in 2011
National wants to scrap the Maori seats in Parliament once all historical Treaty settlements are sorted. By the party's timeline that process could start in 2014. Leader John Key released Treaty negotiations, Maori affairs and electoral law policies yesterday. Under the first, the party wants to settle all historical Treaty settlements by 2014. The electoral policy would see the seven Maori seats abolished once that is accomplished.

National are well placed to make sure white rule is here to stay, dumping the Maori seats and trying to snuff out MMP eliminates the leaps we have made in representative democracy and will stunt the nation in ways that few political parties have managed to achieve. The misplaced belief that there was ever a promise to hold a referendum on MMP has given legitimacy to dismantling an electoral system that has forced white rich old men to share power in Parliament, by reverting back to Nationals preference of First Past the Post we are taking a great leap backwards, the release of policy that advocates the abolition of the Maori seats has provoked a sharp response from Tariana who I’m sure after her current snuggling with John Key has been taken aback that her possible ‘Treaty Partner’ has medium term plans to not only scrap the electoral mechanism that gives Maoridom a voice, but also change the representative nature of our democracy, when you do a deal with the devil Tariana, the Devil doesn’t change, you do. Of course the abolition of the Maori seats could just be raw meat for National’s more redneck fringe, Mathew Hooten only 3 weeks ago was telling me on Eye to Eye that National had no intention of dumping the Maori seats, they only had the policy to keep the more crazy National supporters happy. With National privately cuddling the Maori Party while publicly threatening them it will be interesting to see how Pita Sharples explains all this on Let’s be Frank on Alt Tv tomorrow night.

15 Comments:

At 29/9/08 9:31 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Smart move by National. They've dealt themselves a strong negotiating card to be played in the case of a National/Maori coalition becoming inevitable.

 
At 29/9/08 9:41 am, Anonymous Avenger said...

Bo.ber,your fixation with apartheid is admirable, but completely misguided.

Why don't you push for exclusive seats for Pacific Islanders and other Pacific minorities? Stop being illiberal bleeding heart and grow some balls!

 
At 29/9/08 10:23 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's ignore the fact that Maori are overrepresented as a function of percentage of population in the current Parliament and continue duckspeaking about "white rule", shall we?

 
At 29/9/08 10:49 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol, so this is National's way of courting Maori, romance with a slap in the face!

Nobody is surprised though are they? If so, you have a lot more unpleasant surprises coming your way when National get into government.

Tim, if you're there, I'm interested on your take on this.

 
At 29/9/08 11:30 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whitey - why the racist term.

I don't care much for any racist language, including pom, yank, kraut, frog - seems cheap to me.

Some races uses terms to describe themselves - kiwi for example, I don't use it but for them it seems to be a term of affection, rather than abuse.

Bobmer uses racial sterotypes and works as terms of abuse.

Also odd Bomber uses, what I assume, is a childhood nickname rather than using his real name, most people when/if they grow up use real names in an adult form but not him. Still that is his choice, the people he abuses are not choosing to be abused.

Would he use racist term to people face or in public, if he does I hope people walk or run away from him, there is no excuse for it, it is a form of (cowardly) violence.

 
At 29/9/08 11:33 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suggest until Malcolm uses appropraite, polite and respectful languge to descrube races or groups of people all blacks should be refered to as blacky, all Asians as browney or yellowy, slanty eyes etc....

Equality.

 
At 29/9/08 11:36 am, Anonymous weka said...

I'd be interestd to know more about the Maori Party's concept of wanting a treaty partner after the election rather than a coalition partner. Is there anything online about that?



Why don't you push for exclusive seats for Pacific Islanders and other Pacific minorities?


Avenger, you seem to be implying that Maori have Maori seats because they're non-white therefore other non-whites should have seats too. The reason Maori have the seats is because they're tangata whenua. The Treaty is between Maori and the Crown who represent non-Maori. Pacific Islanders fit into the non-Maori part of that equation.

 
At 29/9/08 11:42 am, Anonymous weka said...

And, if you're going to talk about 'minorities', you do realise that within our lifetimes most NZers will be Polynesian :-D


Also odd Bomber uses, what I assume, is a childhood nickname rather than using his real name, most people when/if they grow up use real names in an adult form but not him


This from someone who posts anonymously (I'm rolling my eyes now).

whitey

It's being used ironically. It's not a description of pakeha. It's a term used in reference to upholding white supremacist ideology in this country, and as such isn't comparable with calling Aisans yellowy etc. As a pakeha, in this context, I don't find the term whitey in the least offensive, I find it funny.

 
At 29/9/08 11:47 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some people don't find the term nigger offensive either - some people don't get it.

Maybe anon realise no-one cares much who they are .... ego maniancs love to see their 'names', weka is a name ????, in print.

If it is so improtant for us to know who you are post your full name and address and photo id if you like - personally I am not interested.

 
At 29/9/08 2:17 pm, Anonymous weka said...

Some people don't find the term nigger offensive either - some people don't get it.

Sure, but it all depends on the context, who is using the word and why. I think that 'whitey' is offensive to people here not because of the word itself but because of the politics in the way that Bomber uses it in this post. You might want to ask yourself what specifically is offensive to you about it, not that it is generally 'racist' (which it's not really). My guess is that you don't like the politics that point out the problems with the white boys trying to run the place.

As for my name, I use a pseudonym because (a) the internet is not a particularly safe place for women, and (b) a consistent pseudonym makes for better conversation and debate. It's easier for people to follow who says what. As opposed to 'anonymous' which after the second or third time it's used means you cant' really follow who is saying what. It's all about communication intelligence.

You're being hypocritical of course, as you don't use your own name yet think others should.

 
At 29/9/08 4:41 pm, Blogger Truth Seeker said...

National are the enemy of democracy. I don't think this can be any more clear.

Wars have fought over less.

 
At 29/9/08 6:13 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The maori seats became irrelevant as soon as the maori party was formed.

 
At 29/9/08 6:37 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Wars have fought over less"

LOL truthseeker get over yourself

 
At 29/9/08 10:39 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"National are the enemy of democracy. I don't think this can be any more clear. "

Therefore according to the latest polls then around 50% of the voting public hate democracy.

If you were a true democrat you would respect that result.

 
At 29/9/08 10:42 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And, if you're going to talk about 'minorities', you do realise that within our lifetimes most NZers will be Polynesian :-D"

Actually no, they'll be whoever they want to be. There are enough 'maori' running around who are quite clearly of predominately european blood who call themselves moari as proof.

 

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