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Monday, May 26, 2008

How about we apologise for sending troops to Vietnam instead?


Apology to Vietnam veterans for unfair post-war treatment
The Government will publicly apologise to Vietnam War veterans and their families, recognising the servicemen were not treated fairly when they returned from war. The apology, which will be made in Parliament on Wednesday, was agreed to in a memorandum of understanding between the Government, the Ex-Vietnam Services Association and the Royal New Zealand Returned and Services Association in 2006. The memorandum, a $30 million package that resulted from a report on the veterans' concerns, also includes an ex-gratia payment of $40,000 for those with prescribed medical conditions and a $25,000 payment to the spouses of veterans who have died. "The apology will recognise that Vietnam veterans were not treated fairly on their return to New Zealand after the war," Prime Minister Helen Clark said.

How about we apologise for sending troops to Vietnam in the first place? The understandable fury directed at troops on their return home is healthy and important – one really does need to let troops who go into manufactured wars (Gulf of Tonkin was a big lie remember?) know that they will be demonized on their return, because as a soldier you have a free will, if you choose to get involved in a manufactured war, you deserve all the contempt you get, but the issue here was that our Government should NEVER have sent our troops into a manufactured war in the first place and most of the contempt by protestors should have been heaped on the Governments of the day. Even if we dislike what troops did, there is no excuse for the appalling health and mental problems that resulted from this war being left to wreck the lives of vets without true Government aid. The whole sorry exercise should remind Governments that when they ask NZers to risk their lives for a foreign conflict, as a Public we demand the highest level of justifications and not just sucking up to the Americans.

16 Comments:

At 26/5/08 10:34 am, Anonymous Tee said...

Maybe you should apologise to those expelled from Vietnam such as the ethnic Chinese for the consequences of the triumph of 'socialism'

 
At 26/5/08 11:00 am, Anonymous Civilized said...

Apologise for sending'em?

Come on! Next you'll want to apologise to the Vietnamese?

After all, they got clobbered with _way_ more dioxin than the vets.

...ahh, well yes. Maybe they are over due a Big Sorry! And maybe restituition of the same size as the military budget that was committed to harming them.

Both sides did wrong... the only cure for that is to start doing Right. Evil is the response to evil actions, Good follows Good actions.

 
At 26/5/08 11:51 am, Anonymous Avenger said...

Bomber, your hatred of the United States is leading you astray, once again.

The people who went to war and fought for our country should be recognised and honoured. Put aside your deep-seated hatred of the US and join in the occasion.

 
At 26/5/08 12:06 pm, Anonymous AwCwap! said...

The people who went to war and fought for our country should be recognised and honoured.

Wake up. Read history with open eyes. They didn't fight for their country.

They went off to fight to maintain a neo-colonial stranglehold on somebody elses country.

 
At 26/5/08 12:42 pm, Blogger Blair said...

Apologise for defending the sovereign nation of South Vietnam against communist insurgents?

Why? The veterans should be proud of what they did. All the more so now that a free Vietnam no longer exists.

 
At 26/5/08 12:44 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

3 million Vietnamese were killed in that war.

 
At 26/5/08 3:55 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the hell does aknowledging that vets got treated bad on their return even have to do with the fucking vetnamese? you are taking one issue and using it as a standpoint for another totally seperate argument,all for arguments sake!

 
At 26/5/08 8:06 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bomber, why don't you go down to the nearest RSA and tell them this.
You won't because you're a gutless little prick who criticizes others with the 'wisdom' of hindsight while benefiting from their willingness to put their lives on the line for people like you who spit in their faces for the sacrafices they made.

This is probably one of the most sickest things that you have ever written and I hope, if there is any kind of justice in the world, that someone holds you accountable one day.

 
At 27/5/08 8:37 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Vietnam war was dumb, dumb, dumb. Would somebody please tell me what the Vietnamese ever did to us? I'm glad that our soldiers got their butts kicked over there along with the pathetic USA who were defeated by an army of peasants.

 
At 27/5/08 9:01 am, Blogger rangi said...

no vietcong ever called me a hori

 
At 27/5/08 10:08 am, Anonymous tee said...

Yeah anon 8:37 except our soldiers didn't have their butts kicked and neither did the UD Forces...all major defeats happened after nthe withdrawl of most US forces and the cessation of US air support to the Republic of South Vietnam...whereupon the Communist forces reneged upon the agreements of the Paris Peace Accords and followed their own policy of imperialism...not as peasants but heavily backed by the weapons of China and the USSR...

Pay to learn your history rather than just rhetoric ay...

 
At 27/5/08 10:20 am, Blogger Blair said...

Would somebody please tell me what the Vietnamese ever did to us?

The Vietcong and Ho Chi Minh attacked our allies, the Republic of Vietnam. Why don't you ask some Vietnamese what the consequence of the demise of that nation has been for them?

I'm glad that our soldiers got their butts kicked over there along with the pathetic USA who were defeated by an army of peasants.

Actually, the Vietcong and North Vietnamese were the ones getting their butts kicked, forcing them to sue for peace. Nobody lost or won.

 
At 27/5/08 12:15 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's my belief that the USA lost the Vietnam war, just like they lost the one in Iraq.

 
At 27/5/08 12:17 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, the Vietcong and North Vietnamese were the ones getting their butts kicked, forcing them to sue for peace. Nobody lost or won.

Thats just like how the USSR won in Afghanistan.

 
At 27/5/08 1:21 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All hail Ho Chi Minh!

The MAN!

 
At 28/5/08 9:21 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"no vietcong ever called me a hori"

Well, the Iraqi's and Afghani's sure do.

 

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