Blogger targets 'political' editing of Wikipedia in Beehive
Blogger targets 'political' editing of Wikipedia in Beehive
A person at Parliament is making too many "political" alterations to New Zealand entries in the open-access internet encyclopaedia Wikipedia, says media commentator Russell Brown of Auckland. Politicians and staffers "editing" such entries should have to declare their interests rather than remaining anonymous behind the strings of numbers which make up internet "addresses" for individual users, Brown said today in his Hard News "blog". "I think 202.22.18.241 is doing way too much, and behaving in too political a way, for someone hiding behind an IP address," he said. "I'd rather see Parliamentary editors register and declare interests in their profiles". Wikipedia records the exact time and IP address - the numerical identifier of each computer on the internet - when any user alters a page. The IP address used for the June 2007 alterations - to remove information about the deputy Opposition leader Bill English's moral beliefs and family - is assigned to the New Zealand Parliament, Brown said. The initial entry said of Mr English: "He married a Catholic GP, Mary, and they now have six children - five boys: Luke, Thomas, Rory, Bartholemew and Xavier; and one daughter, Maria. He is a devout Catholic himself, and upholds his churches opposition to abortion, voluntary euthanasia and physician assisted suicide, civil unions in New Zealand and prostitution in New Zealand. "His wife Mary edited the newsletter of an anti-abortion medical practitioners group, Doctors for Life, and served as president of a conservative Christian women's group known as the Family Education Network, before stepping down when her husband was elected Leader of the Opposition. Both organisations are now defunct" These passages were cut to: "He married a GP, Mary, and they now have six children - five boys and one daughter, Maria".
Isn’t that interesting, another blogger, whaleoil (think of bcom undergrads from the provinces with redder necks) claims it could be a Labour party staffer running a disinformation campaign, but that is clutching and much more likely it is a National staffer trying to erase the fact that Bill English is very anti abortion and very religious, with National needing to reach out to urban women, having an anti-abortionist (whose kid doesn’t like the fags much either) as your number two knobbles all that hard work John Key has gone to flashing his charming smile all over town.
posted by Bomber @ 6:08 am
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13 Comments:
Why don't you ask why his children's names were published in the first place? Or why the information about him being catholic and opposing abortion was put on there in the first place?
Surely the "political editing" when that was added to the Wiki article on Bill English? No complaints from Russell Brown then was there?
Perhaps someone should do a little editing on Sue Bradford and her time studying in Communist China, perhaps a little about her children too, you know seeing as it's okay to go into detail about peoples beliefs and family life on wikipedia, according to labour party stooge Russell Brown.
What the fuck does "very religious" even mean? Attending church most Sundays? simply having Christian beliefs? I can understand why they wouldn't want to broadcast the fact when the likes of yourself uses it as an opportunity to smear them as "very religious".
Tell me Bomber, why is the fact the the English family is "very religious" a problem for you? Didn't seem to worry you much that the Muliaga family was "very relgious", I guess being "very religious" is something you are prepared to over look if it's a poor brown family we're discussing?
This whole issue is a complete beat up from Russell Brown, acting like the Labour dick-glove he is, trying to take the heat off his beloved party now that they are being flogged in the poles, he should just "move on".
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LOL - and the Muliaga family are running for election to run the country are they? The venom in your post regarding Russell suggests a cut to the bone there anon
So as long as your poor and brown you can believe what ever you want?
If you are running for election, people have to have their religious views vetted by you now?
Cut to the bone? You could say the same about your venom directed at Whale Oil Bomber. Funny how venom is ok if it's you who happens to be doing the sneering.
yawn - anon I think there is a clear difference between the two, the Muliaga family aren't running for political office, Bill is - what you believe when your mums electricty is cut off and you die is no relevance, what an ultra conservative anti-abortionist in liberal clothing running for office is. The fact that you can't see the difference and tried to use it as an arguement shows how weak and reactionary your reasoning is. So yes anon, I think Russell cut you to the bone there.
Cut to the bone? You could say the same about your venom directed at Whale Oil Bomber. Funny how venom is ok if it's you who happens to be doing the sneering.
LOL - I only sneer at stuff worth sneering at, whaleoil's suggestion that it is a Labour Party disinfo campaign is a farce and your venom deposited on Russell for what is a very good call says much more about you than it does about me anonymous poster.
So why aren't sneering at the fact that Bill's "ultra conservative" laundry is being aired but don't demand that far left ultra socailist/communist leanings of green party members be aired as well.
And why should his children be named in the wiki entry - why was this necessary? That at the very least should be getting frowned upon but you are happy to ignore that.
As for the Muliaga family - you are right there is no comparison with them and the English family - I'm just pointing out your blatant double standards when it comes to various people's Christian beliefs.
LOL - I only sneer at stuff worth sneering at, well you would say that wouldn't you? Perhaps Whale Oil's claim is a farce - not like you aren't prone to conspiracy theories yourself - your think of bcom undergrads from the provinces with redder necks is merely petty venom that says more about your prejudices about rural people from the provinces and business, than it does about anything else.
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So why aren't sneering at the fact that Bill's "ultra conservative" laundry is being aired but don't demand that far left ultra socailist/communist leanings of green party members be aired as well
Because it is someone within Parliament who is editing these factual posts on people anon, and the edit just happens to coincide with National's attempt to rebrand themselves for urban women, what factual information has been edited from the greens? Do you have any proof of that assertion?
And why should his children be named in the wiki entry - why was this necessary? That at the very least should be getting frowned upon but you are happy to ignore that.
I ignore it because your point has no value, is it factually correct? The wikipedia entry is a bibliography of Bill - does Bill have kids? What are his kids names? Is he married? What is her name? You seem to think that this public information shock horror is on the web, and that I should feel ashamed that his kids names are on a wikipedia bibliography listed under children of Bill. You have no piont mate, just reactionary bluster.
As for the Muliaga family - you are right there is no comparison with them and the English family - I'm just pointing out your blatant double standards when it comes to various people's Christian beliefs.
It took you long enough to get that point but I love how you've now twisted this into an anti-christian thing, by the way I love God, he's great, I just can't stand his hypercritical followers.
Perhaps Whale Oil's claim is a farce - not like you aren't prone to conspiracy theories yourself
And when I make stupid claims I get sneered at, all fair in love and blogging anon, you just seem to be extra miffed because Russell cut a little deep and without thinking t through you went off and had a go at me.
And as for your desperate final point there...your think of bcom undergrads from the provinces with redder necks is merely petty venom that says more about your prejudices about rural people from the provinces and business, than it does about anything else....anon, that was the point I ended on remember - says much more about you than it does about me anonymous poster. ... please try and come up with your own insults mate, it's a bit lame relying on mine while you're trying to insult me.
there is a really good article on the history of the Canterbury water scandal on Wik, gives names and addresses of the people who would transfer equity of many to a few farmers,
all this care of that weird Public works act thing,
and of course Helengrand,
from pq
Bagging English for being Catholic is like bagging Ahmed Zaoui for being Muslim.
Zaoui stood as a candidate for the Islamic Salvation Front. That's variation on Family First or United Future. And activley fought for his democracy - Good on 'em!
But that's not Bill - he is rather milder than that.
Do you really believe Bill will outlaw abortion?
And leave his kids out of it.
Bagging English for being Catholic is like bagging Ahmed Zaoui for being Muslim.
Nooooooooo - Bill is an anti-abortionist ultra conservative Christian, that is an issue that should be open, I'm not bagging him - I'm identifying him as that and find it interesting that someone is editing that about him at a time when the National Party is trying to attract urban women - you are the one who has taken offence at me pointing that out. If Ahmed Zaoui was running for office in NZ and he was an ultra conservative anti-abornist Muslim and someone edited his wiki at a time when his party was trying to woo urban women then I would point that out as well.
Do you really believe Bill will outlaw abortion?
And leave his kids out of it.
Are you like a bit wide eyed in your support of Bill? Because the last line made me laugh out loud, if I caused offence by mentioning Bill's kids I apologise, now I don't know if Bill would ban abortion, because I have very little idea as to what National actually stands for yet.
Bill is an anti-abortionist ultra conservative Christian.[citation needed]
He is a devout[citation needed] Catholic himself, and upholds[citation needed] his churches opposition to abortion, voluntary euthanasia and physician assisted suicide, civil unions in New Zealand and prostitution in New Zealand.
Well well well, looks like Russell was wrong, no lone parliamentarian trying to rewrite history.
Not that he could fully admit he was wrong.
I wonder if bomber will admit he was wrong.
Probably not.
These boys don't do apologies, just spread lies and then on to the next topic.
Bomber has more in common with mainstream journalists than he cares to admit.
Ultra-conservative Christian?
He's a Catholic and his actions to date have been that of a reasonable man. I think he reflects his consistuants in Southland pretty well.
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Well well well, looks like Russell was wrong, no lone parliamentarian trying to rewrite history.
Not that he could fully admit he was wrong.
I wonder if bomber will admit he was wrong.
Probably not.
These boys don't do apologies, just spread lies and then on to the next topic.
Bomber has more in common with mainstream journalists than he cares to admit.
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