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Monday, November 26, 2007

Taser 'a form of torture', says UN

Taser 'a form of torture', says UN
The United Nations Convention Against Torture has linked the taser stun-gun to torture, one month before a report on the weapon is due out from the New Zealand Police. "The use of these weapons causes acute pain, constituting a form of torture," the UN committee concluded. The committee said studies have been carried out overseas showing the Taser was dangerous and can cause death. The comments are included in the committee's thirty-ninth report and come two weeks after unarmed Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski died in a taser related incident. In a graphic YouTube video, Mr Dziekanski was shown to be shot by police using stun guns at an airport in Canada.

Hmmm - seeing as we went with the TSA to pacify the UN - spose there won't be any issues from the cops if we listen to the UN on Tasers?


At 26/11/07 7:56 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

who cares if it is a form of torture??! some would argue its better than getting a bullet...if you are going to be a clown and play up and refuse to listen to requests, you deserve everything you get.

At 26/11/07 11:12 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon still doing what he knows best.
"being an egg"

Marky mark

At 27/11/07 3:11 am, Anonymous Danyl Strype said...

Kia ora Anonymous

I'd like to think you are satirizing views you know to be profoundly ignorant. Sadly, even if you are, there are people who would argue along these lines with hand-wringing sincerity.

Getting repeatedly kicked in the groin is better than getting a bullet. How about you come and let me do that to you a few times and I won't shoot you, ok? You are a clown and you are refusing to listen to my requests. It's no more than you deserve.

But seriously, the TAZAR is not an alternative to a gun. The TAZAR *is* a gun. Like any other gun, it can cause *death*.

In practice it's used as an alternative to a baton, on the plainly wrong assumption that it is non-lethal. More concerning, it is used to obtain unquestioning compliance through fear of being electrocuted. Engineering mass public obedience to the police through fear necessarily stifles dissent, reducing the public to the role of livestock and driving those who seek political change towards more desperate forms of protest.

The UN definition of terrorism is the use of violence, of the fear of violence, to political ends. As such, the TAZAR is a terrorist weapon! We don't need cops with TAZERs any more than we need hippies with grenade launchers.

Ma te wā

At 27/11/07 8:40 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But seriously, the TAZAR is not an alternative to a gun. The TAZAR *is* a gun. Like any other gun, it can cause *death*."

Getting shot with a gun i.e. one that fires bullets, is far more likely to kill you. Stephen Bellingham and Steven Wallace are two NZers who are far more likely to be with us now if cops had been able to tazer them rather than shot them. Batons can also cause death, an errant blow to the head from a baton can kill just as easily as a knife gun or tazer.

"The UN definition of terrorism is the use of violence, of the fear of violence, to political ends. As such, the TAZAR is a terrorist weapon!"

That is utter nonsense and you make yourself look like a loony when you come out with such things. Do you think Stephen Bellingham and Steven Wallace were shot dead for political ends? By you definition, a police baton (or any other) would be a terrorist weapon too, they are after all instruments that can be used for violent and terrorising ends, ask Louise Wallace.

At 27/11/07 9:56 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

*That should be Louise Nicholas, not Wallace

At 27/11/07 10:42 am, Blogger Mana said...

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At 27/11/07 10:44 am, Blogger Mana said...


CAREFUL Danyl Strype soon he might say your me, its a common practice

At 27/11/07 11:30 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

United Nations Convention Against Torture

OOOOOOOh, the UN!!! Don't they have their hands full with humanitarian nightmares like the genocide in Dufar?
And which countries, pray tell, are represented on this committee???

Senegal, Ecuador Morocco, Russia and China. Chile and the US as well for any of you lefties who feel the need to defend the first five countries.

Now pardon me while I vomit at the predictable hypocrisy of yet another totally pointless UN committee that no one will listen to.

At 27/11/07 9:51 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was this the same UN which elevates countries like Zimbabwe and Syria to its human rights committees?

Obviously we have to take them seriously.

At 28/11/07 1:44 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

umm mr strype...the word is T-A-S-E-R. Thats right:taser. you are a raving weirdo from completely left field with you inanr ramblings, and to top it all off you have no knowledge of the subject as you cannot even spell it correctly. back to the methadone and bed please. it is not a weapon of torture. compliance is good-it will stop (hopefully) idiots who cannot decipher the directives of police, although some are very difficult :"put down the hammer".."lie on the ground"..."stay there". yep-real tricky stuff.

At 21/1/08 11:32 pm, Blogger jason said...

if you trust the police to use tasers solely on dangerous criminals than you a complete idiot. living in the uk as i am i know for a fact that if you give the police any additional powers they will abuse them.they've just started using tasers here and killed a guy yesterday with it.since they were given guns they've killed more unarmed people than armed. it's turning into a police state!


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