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An Australian tourist says he is "disgusted" with the way he has been treated by New Zealand police after he was pepper-sprayed while handcuffed and seated in the back of a police car. Fred Klutke, 50, who owns a post shop in northern New South Wales, says he became involved in a confrontation in an Ohakune pub on Tuesday after which he was arrested and charged with assaulting police, resisting arrest and disorderly behaviour likely to cause violence. While Mr Klutke admits he was "reasonably drunk" at the time, he denies all charges and has made an official complaint with the Police Complaints Authority. He has accused police of using pepper spray on him unfairly after an incident which started when a patron at the hotel accused him on two separate occasions of staring at his girlfriend. He said an argument followed which ended in some "pushing". Then, he said, he was restrained by bouncers who dragged him across the ground, grazing his face in the process. The bouncers held him down until police officers arrived and handcuffed him, he said. "They had me in handcuffs ... how could I have assaulted a police officer? I'm disgusted with the fact that he pepper-sprayed someone who was handcuffed. And then when I got back in the car he turned around from the front and pepper-sprayed me again."
Unbelievably there are no rules saying that Police can’t pepper spray a handcuffed man, and we won’t know what the outcome of the complaint will be because the Police get to censor any part of the report they like and don’t have to say if the Officer was found guilty and if so what punishment he receives. Welcome to NZ, come again.
posted by Bomber @ 7:53 am
21 comments
21 Comments:
An intoxicated man in handcuffs could still take a nasty bite out of police officer and might need to be pepper sprayed. Surely there must be witnesses to this incident?
Three questions Bomber?
1. What would you do if there was no one else around and you saw a 6'3 heavily built man hitting his girlfriend in the street?
2. You are woken at 4am by someone moving around in your house, stealing your computer. He runs off. What do you do?
3. Would you be prepared to spend a night shift with the police as an observer?
Cheers
Only someone like Bomber would believe this clowns story hook, line and sinker.
Handcuffs don't stop people from kicking, head butting, spitting or running away. I guess in your world as soon as someone is handcuffed they are immediately immobile and compliant.
You whine, bitch and slag off the cops so much but are you as the above poster suggested prepared just to spend one friday/saturday night out with them?
With all your media contacts Bomber it must be easy for you to tee up a ride along with the cops eh?
Time for you to put your money where you mouth is and spend a friday or saturday night out with the cops and see what they have to deal with. You could write a blog post about it.
Or would that puncture the delusional, privileged 'anarchist' bubble you live in?
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I don't feed trolls, but...
1: I would do as I have always done and step in
2: I would dial 111 and call the fire department (they will turn up quicker and 4 firefighters are preferable to 2 pumped up cops)
3: I have
Again gentlemen, I have no issues with cops other than demanding a system of checks and balances that protect our civil rights. Real simple.Your need to grind on me personally rather than the issues is sad, chin up lads.
I hate it when our cops use pepper spray to torture people.
Just like that poor bloke down in Whakatane.
Don't bother with that tired old mantra that you don't hate cops you just hate the 'system', its crap and blatantly untrue. At least be a man about it, its not like your admitting to kiddy fiddling or anything.
I would hate to see your version of an independent complaints authority maybe they too would find people guilty on the basis of some crappy newspaper article.
1. Hmmm good luck with that big man. Especially if somehow you avoid getting bashed and restrain him and end up facing assault charges yourself (it happens).
2. And what happens if some poor fuckers house burns down while you are wasting those firefighters time?
3. So tell us what happened then Bomber. What did you think of the conditions they work under? And the constant hounding they get from the media and 'liberal' politicians?
I suppose posting childish anti-police propaganda pictures and eagerness to believe some drunken Aussie over the police is only part of your "demanding a system of checks and balances" then?
we're on to you Bomber, watch this thread get pulled in 5-4-3-2.....
some drunken Aussie over the police is
Such an unbiased comment there!
Hahaha!
The reason that our police bash and pepper spray people is because they can get away with it!
Especially with the lowering of the standards for the new recruits coming through!
"some drunken Aussie over the police is
Such an unbiased comment there!
Hahaha!"
The 'victim' in question is Australian and has admitted to being quite drunk. It's a statement of fact fella.
Cheerio.
Big Trev
"The reason that our police bash and pepper spray people is because they can get away with it!"
Or maybe because the situation sometimes requires the use of force?
"Especially with the lowering of the standards for the new recruits coming through!"
You should apply, maybe they'd even let you in.
Look, our cops aren't saints they are under resourced and work under very difficult and dangerous conditions, there are some bad apples but they are hardly the LAPD! A sense of perspective might be in order. I actually agree with Bomber - an independant complaints authority is required, if only to build up the publics trust.
Right, time for work.
Goodbye my dears. You kids play nice now.
Big Trev
Bombers idea of justice - don't believe the patrons of the pub, don't believe the landlord of the pub, don't believe the bouncers at the pub, don't believe the people standing outside the pug, don't believe the officer who arrested him. Instead take as fact the word of some drunk and convict, hang and quarter the cops.
Its funny how he rants against inequalities and prejudice in the justice system and yet promotes it himself. If your a cop, white middle class student or even worse a businessman, your instantly guilty and should be locked away for life. But if your someone who steals the identity of dead babies to make $$$ and uses violence and intimidation to make a political point, your sins are forgiven and excusable and the system is to blame.
Our police have a fine track record when it comes to torturing people with pepper spray. This is only another example of the dirty work.
Shit I reckon if you get arrest it should be compulsory pepper spay in the face and throw in a few taiser shots two, but taiser shots to the neck only. And pepper spay should also be applied to the genitals it would stop the cops from raping em in jail
Bomber wouldnt spen a night with us on the beat,
a) we wouldnt invite him
b) its past the little bubbers bed time
c)he doesnt want to look at what really hapens cause then he would have to write the truth and he dont like that.
As for this creep (Mungle mob for life SIG ) get a life, your Mungle mob are done burger.
Capt Plod
Yes I agree Mungle mob for life guy is a creap I think a bit of pepper spay should also be applied to the genitals of him.
Nothing wrong with a bit of racism against Australians :-)
NS
"The Oxford English Bomber Dictionary: "Trolls": Those who have an opposing opinion that is not necessarily that of a caricature of a pinko Alliance-voting twat"
While your there anon look up the definition of bigot and see how well it applies to Bomber
big_trev said...
An intoxicated man in handcuffs could still take a nasty bite out of police officer and might need to be pepper sprayed. Surely there must be witnesses to this incident?
Three questions Bomber?
1. What would you do if there was no one else around and you saw a 6'3 heavily built man hitting his girlfriend in the street?
2. You are woken at 4am by someone moving around in your house, stealing your computer. He runs off. What do you do?
3. Would you be prepared to spend a night shift with the police as an observer?
Cheers
Hey lil Pen, tell what the fuck doe this have to do with being pepper sprayed in handcuff little on... you sure got the support of the leggio wannabes ... so explain how any of your big little quest have anything to do with the pigs breaking laws they are suppose to uphold? hmmm
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