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Tuesday, July 24, 2007

China postpones pollution report


Alt Tv/Fleet FM Breakfast News
China postpones pollution report
China has indefinitely postponed the release of an environmental report on the costs of economic development. Several local governments are reported to have objected to the release of "sensitive" information about the pollution they cause. Seeing as China now produces more pollution than America, and with air pollution in Beijing only ever falling below danger levels a couple of weeks per year, the environmental degradation caused by China’s capitalism is becoming such a major problem that China has resorted to ignoring it altogether. Now it can honestly say it has become a member of the first world club.

13 Comments:

At 24/7/07 4:02 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're blaming capitalism?
So: the gradual disappearance of the Aral Sea and a similar diminishing of the Caspian Sea because of the diversion of the rivers that fed them, the pollution of the Black Sea, the Baltic Sea, and the unique freshwater environment of Lake Baikal, pollution of the Vistula and Oder rivers in Poland, pollution of over 70 percent of the surface water in the Soviet Union, only 30 percent of the sewage in the Soviet Union being treated properly, stablished health standards for air pollution being exceeded by ten times or more in 103 cities in the Soviet Union, air pollution problem being even more severe in Eastern Europe, creation of a rapid growth in lung cancer, forest die-back, and damage to buildings and cultural heritages, 58 percent of total agricultural land of the former Soviet Union being affected by salinization, erosion, acidity, or waterlogging, nuclear waste being dumped in the Sea of Japan, the Arctic Ocean, and in locations in the Far East, that in the city of Moscow there were 636 radioactive toxic waste sites and 1,500 in St. Petersburg. This was capitalism's fault?

 
At 24/7/07 4:13 pm, Blogger bomber said...

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Ummmmmmm, could you just look up at the picture above the blog and just tell me which country it is as my geography suggests it isn't a picture of russia, the country you spent an entire post writing about, (I'll give you a hint, the name of the country appears in the blog headline)

 
At 24/7/07 5:52 pm, Blogger Peter Vegas said...

I love the irony. America fought the red menace for years before the dirty commies decided to get with the programme, climb out from under the bed and into the business of making money.

As a result russia and china are far more of a threat to the future of the US and the entire planet than they ever were while they concentrated on big army parades in centre of town and funny marching style.

 
At 24/7/07 5:55 pm, Blogger peterquixote said...

good post bomber just show you donts dumb,
thats why i say them chinese asian thing mn girls
do yous like asian
GIRL MN THING BOMBER

 
At 25/7/07 8:37 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh for fucks sake. I assume you are not that obtuse. Yes, I am aware you were writing about China. However, you state within you post that it's due to "China's capitalism". I then give an example of a communist country (in this case the Soviet Union) which had an appalling history of environmental destruction. My point, and stay with me here, was that the type of political system the country has is irrelevant as both capitalism and communism encourage enrionmental destruction.

 
At 25/7/07 8:42 am, Blogger bomber said...

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Hey it's the guy who writes about russia when I post about China, welcome back, didn't expect you'd come back, but here you are, now my point, and stick with me here, is that China HAS BECOME WORSE now that it has created its own form of capitalisim and that capitalisim exacurbates pollution much more because it constantly needs more and more middle class consumer consumption. Communist pollution tends to be appallingly inefficient and just brutal, very much like russia.

 
At 25/7/07 10:45 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hey it's the guy who writes about russia when I post about China". Hey, it's the guy that when confronted with the fact that communist countries pollute as much as capitalist countries goes off on a tangent and tries to fudge the issue by claiming that he was taliking about China and how dare I have the temerity to discuss another communist country. However, I think you are finally getting my point and you are correct that communist pollution is inefficient and brutal.

 
At 25/7/07 12:17 pm, Blogger bomber said...

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'Confronted with the fact that communist countries pollute as much as capitalist' nonesense- capitalism pollutes much worse than communisim - I don't deny that communisim pollutes, it does I agree - what I'm saying - and China is the proof of this, is that capitalisim multiplies pollution many times over because it is so much more efficient at consuming so much more. And your temerity was the pointlessness of your point, not that you raised it.

 
At 25/7/07 9:40 pm, Blogger peterquixote said...

what about them Chinese girl bomber,
yous got to face up to serious issues, do yous like
bomber likes ASIAN GIRL
MN BOMBER

 
At 26/7/07 4:10 pm, Anonymous nznative said...

peterquixote your asian girl hand spanky stuff is best left on your own computer screen, we dont give a toss about your tossing .

The problem with capitalism like communisim is they are false man created sytems or laws.

Unlike the laws of nature which have certain fundemental realitys ........... like our planet being a rather small finate thing.

Communisim ignores human nature and is immediatly corrupted by it.

Capitalisim ignores the laws of nature is just as dangerous and stupid.

As capitalisim has ignored pollution and enviroment degradation we can see what a hollow, false and shonky sytem it is.

As it will be govt regulations which force the cost of pollution ( prevention and cleaning of it ) to be part of the production cost then I guess this is a form of socialisim.

......BUT more pure capitalist countrys where pollution is not a cost in production could well undercut and scupper those thinking further beyound the next years GDP figures.

Capitalisim killing the world ............ yes, if you let it.

 
At 27/7/07 6:39 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

no wonder there coming here.. stuff there own country now work on someone elses...

Japan should of taken over...

Hated by Most

 
At 27/7/07 11:48 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Capitalisim multiplies pollution many times over because it is so much more efficient at consuming so much more." Do you have any statistical authority for that point or is it just a general comment based on your own personal bias? And in what way is my comment "pointless" when you deliberately state that the environmental degradation is caused by "China’s capitalism"? Surely you are inviting a riposte about environmental degradation caused by communism and hence the point of my original post...

 
At 28/7/07 9:54 am, Blogger bomber said...

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My proof is a little something called the winning of the cold war, Communism is a dead and crap political system that doesn't work, Capitalisim is much more efficient at consumption because it is still alive and consuming and it is made MORE apparent with the change over in China from communisim to capitalisim - if you look you'll see the environmental degredation is apparent in the photo I posted.

 

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