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Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Look, if a bitch can’t take a joke…


Women are getting uppity again, they are pointing out the obvious misogyny of the sexualisation and demeaning objectification of passive females as bikini clad mass media fodder on such blokedom only zones as Sportscafe! Obviously crirticising this blatant dehumanizing of women as CTF’s (Cunts To Fuck) is written off as Political Correctness from an ugly fat dyke who doesn’t have a sense of humour and probably just needs a good root to sort her out. How could one argue with that?

Of course the ‘new lad’ is just as sexist as the ‘old lad’, but to criticize such ‘laddish behaviour’ is somehow a feminizing of male culture and are attempts by a lesbian conspiracy to restrict natural and healthy male desires to just look at women as pieces of meat. But because we do it in a very subtle way, and not as outright as an Australian Muslim Cleric, that means we are as pure as the driven snow!

What a safe pack of cultural hypocrites we are!

Is Marc Ellis a 'new lad' or old sexist?
Marc Ellis might come across as just playing a "bad boy" role on television, but Waikato University sociologists say he is seriously reinforcing traditional male chauvinist attitudes to women.

Sports sociologist Toni Bruce, a former sports journalist, says the former All Black and colleagues on sports comedy shows such as the current Game of Two Halves and formerly Sportscafe, which ended last year, are part of what a British sociologist calls "new laddism".

"New lads" like Ellis play up to the notion that they are just "boys behaving badly", so they are aware that men are not supposed to treat women as mere "eye candy". But Dr Bruce says that is exactly what they do in a humorous way.

"It may be a sign that those things are really on the way out if the only place they are appearing is in the realm of humour," she told a Sociological Association conference in Hamilton.

But she added: "Overall, our analysis revealed that Sportscafe constructed a discourse about gender that privileged new lad masculinity and reinforced the marginalisation of women, while masking its messages in boyish humour."

She said "sexualisation" was a prevalent theme on Sportscafe, with "regular sexual innuendo and sarcastic references to sexual prowess (or lack thereof).

"This theme was most evident in the representation of the female dancers whose main role was to perform while the (usually male) guests walked on to the set," she said.

"Throughout, they remained voiceless and nameless while being the object of the gaze of the camera, studio audience and home viewers. Indeed, in one show Ric Salizzo referred to one of them only as 'Dancer 2'.

"In contrast, the male bands which provided musical background for the dancers were named and sometimes engaged in conversation with the hosts."

Roving reporter "Eva the Bulgarian" was often shown in camera angles that highlighted her breasts, lips and buttocks.

In one show, blond cyclist Katie Mactier was welcomed on stage with a huge "Yeah" from Ellis.

"As this did not happen for any of the male guests (and was consistent with his reactions to attractive females who appeared on other shows), his 'excitement' was clearly related to her appearance." Dr Bruce said Sportscafe celebrated "violent actions" in rugby. It could be seen as "the last bastion where men are safe from the threat of women", as represented by female political leaders and feminism generally.

46 Comments:

At 29/11/06 8:39 pm, Anonymous deano said...

Nice article Bomber. I particularly liked this part:
"Political Correctness from an ugly fat dyke who doesn’t have a sense of humour and probably just needs a good root to sort her out."

And if you Google her, yes she is ugly and fat. A dyke? I dunno.

 
At 30/11/06 8:38 am, Blogger Mark said...

The show was a pisstake and quite funny. Don't get so uptight about things that just aren't worth it. You'll fast become a parody.

 
At 30/11/06 9:37 am, Blogger bomber said...

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Shhh, sweep such thoughts under the carpet eh Mark?

 
At 30/11/06 1:34 pm, Anonymous Eve said...

Deano, meet Irony - Irony meet Deano. My work here is done.

 
At 30/11/06 1:52 pm, Blogger bomber said...

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Grin - thank you eve

 
At 30/11/06 4:40 pm, Anonymous deano said...

I get it, eve! Now cook me some eggs.

 
At 30/11/06 6:04 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was going to say ohhhh the irony but someone beat me to it.

Boomer as a supporter of women - now that’s funny or maybe alarming. As if women haven’t got enough problems, now they have Boomer purporting to be … ??? …. well only he knows.

Have you noticed how pretenders are so in denial about their own prejudices and bigotry they, in some deluded way, manage to see themselves as the direct opposite of what they really are – surely he isn’t fooling anyone but himself.

What worries and saddens me the most about ‘men’ like Boomer they is always a ‘women’ hanging on their every word – a bit like those morons who queue up outside Auckland prison every Saturday to visit the ‘men’ who put them in hospital. The ones whose partners can’t visit (because they murdered them) soon attract a prison groupie to provide for their every need.

No point putting these ‘men’ in jail unless you do something about the ‘women’ who seek out the abuse and abusers. If Boomer ever find himself some crims to visit (now that would be cruel and unusual punishment) he will see it first hand.

Dear me where will Boomers (misogynist) delusions end – I see another committee coming for him.

 
At 30/11/06 6:48 pm, Anonymous anna mouse said...

I think Anon you have the wrong end of the stick (again) which is somewhere, way over the irony

 
At 30/11/06 8:03 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loathe Sportscafe, even more the silly woman who take part in the female objectification and misogyny it drips of. Oh, and that beer ad, is it export gold? or lion red? with those guys trying to steal beer from the skanky-dressed women. The scene where they distract her with the shoes is infuriating to watch. Both, disastrous representations which have the same derogatory implications.

-Anti-Flag.

 
At 1/12/06 9:46 am, Anonymous GWB said...

No its a Tui ad Anti-Flag...reckon its one of the best ads of the year...

You may want to explain why you consider the women to be dressed in a "Skanky" manner. No doubt you think homespun and sensible shoes is the way to go, or maybe a Burqua? Sorry, no bikinis in Anti-Flags world, they allow men to find women attractive when they should be abasing themselves for their maleness instead...

 
At 1/12/06 10:27 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

gwb:

Skanky, as in a sexually demeaning representation of one self, to serve a single role of being a sexual tool there by perpetuating women's limited role in society. But hey, any criticism of such degrading representations would automatically mean i'm endorsing the burkah right?! Loving the disturbing inference.

And clearly, you missed my point about the shoes, which i'll let you ponder over until it registers.


-Anti-Flag.

 
At 1/12/06 11:07 am, Blogger bomber said...

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GWB - I'm honestly surprised by the burqua comment - what does that mean? I think it was the same old sexist crap as well and you didn't suggest that I wanted women in burquas

 
At 1/12/06 11:33 am, Anonymous GWB said...

Good God Anti Flag...

Ever occurred to you that a lot of women like to wear clothes they consider "sexy" they don't consider it "sexually demeaning" at all...No doubt you'd just consider that to be some sort of unfortunate mentality imposed by patriarchal society....

I guess they could always have had the guys trying to steal beer off some 400 pound 'woman' with facial hair and a bone carving bing distracted by apair of Birkenstocks and a copy of "Why Men are Evil" written by someone like yourself...but I doubt it would be quite so effective a marketing tool :p

Oh well

 
At 1/12/06 11:37 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seeing as you are so well conected in media circles Bomber, why don't you track Ellis down and take him to task?

 
At 1/12/06 12:55 pm, Anonymous deano said...

re: Anti-Flag's argument:

The feminist point about woman being depicted only as sex objects in practice turns into an objection of women being portrayed as sexually attractive at all.  It is the feminists who can't conceive of a woman shown as sexually attractive in a non demeaning way.  The conclusion this leads me to is that feminists find the sex itself demeaning for women, along with everything associated.  Actually that is not much of a bow to draw when you think about some of their other statements.
 
So basically being sexually attractive is antithetical to feminists notion of woman, just like the muslims.  It too is a sin against both ideologies and in both cases it effectively tries to castrate women by denying them their sexuality. 

 
At 1/12/06 2:21 pm, Anonymous Eve said...

Ever read the 'Female Eunuch' Deano? I'd suggest that if you want to start bandying around notions of castration in a debate on Feminist idealogy that you look it up sometime.

The gaping axe wound in this argument is the lack of investigation into what makes someone sexually attractive, or more importantly how the 87 million messages women and men receive everyday reinforce a western, completely constructed notion of beauty.

So let's not rehash the anti-feminist hate speech of the 1970's and deal with the multi billion dollar industries that inform the sleepy masses who we're meant to be and how we're meant to look.

Bikini or burqua - it shouldn't matter.

 
At 1/12/06 2:40 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Female Eunuch' Yeah cause that would give you a really balanced view of the issue Deano. If you haven't read every book on how truly evil all men are and agreed with them, you aren't allowed to have an opinion.

 
At 1/12/06 2:54 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that your rebuttal?! Cheap shot anon.

 
At 1/12/06 3:19 pm, Anonymous deano said...

You know, eve, I'm dying to read the 'Female Eunuch' as clearly my idea of how feminism castrates women's sexuality is completely invalid. I'll read the book and parrot what it says. That will then become my new view on the matter.

Those eggs done yet?

 
At 1/12/06 3:28 pm, Anonymous Eve said...

Keep your knickers on Deano - we are talking about castration after all.

All I'm saying is that the notion of the metaphoric female castration is not a new one and I always feel it's best to know thine material before dropping such heavily laden words into a conversation.

I'll take my moderate and sensible self and get back to the kitchen.

 
At 1/12/06 6:55 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eve did a good job dealing with the chauvinist wank.

-Anti-Flag.

 
At 2/12/06 1:11 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats right Eve, don't listen to the nasty man, you go girlfriend.

 
At 3/12/06 1:09 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said Eve.
That guy gives a whole new meaning to one-eyed
I am sure he reads with his dick.

 
At 4/12/06 9:35 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why don't women have brains?"

"They haven't got a dick to put them in"

 
At 4/12/06 2:09 pm, Anonymous GWB said...

Speaking of misogyny...

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/dad-dies-but-his-sons-evils-go-on/2006/12/03/1165080811056.html

 
At 4/12/06 2:09 pm, Anonymous TJ said...

Good riddance to that guy, shame he same doesn't happen to his sons.

 
At 4/12/06 2:21 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another bunch of wankers. Guys like that should be taken out and shot.

NS

 
At 4/12/06 4:15 pm, Anonymous GWB said...

Lucky he died already. Saves the cost of any further trouble :)

Anti Flag, your thoughts on this guy's attitudes toward women, specifically interested in his attitude that "Girls from Pakistan don't go out at night"

 
At 4/12/06 5:32 pm, Anonymous deano said...

That Australian rape story is particularly horrific, gwb.

Puts Mark Ellis into perspective, doesn't it?

 
At 4/12/06 5:46 pm, Anonymous borat sagdiev said...

Your vagine hangs like the mouth of tired dog.

My charam is big, like a can of Pepsi.

 
At 4/12/06 9:06 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gwb, sorry, but i don't understand what you just said. It helps to be coherent if you want a response.

Deano, Marc Ellis reinforces the perception of women in society of being no more than sexual. These derogatory representations mould the mind of men to understand women as tools to satisfying their sexual desires-Making them less human. She therefore becomes worthy of rape- a form of control of women that is grounded in this understanding that she is subordinate. She MUST be subordinate.

So they all pretty much contribute to the same thing, the rape is merely a horrific manifestation of this festering problem.

-Anti-Flag.

 
At 4/12/06 10:17 pm, Anonymous gwb said...

My point is that this was yet another case of a horrific rape commited in Australia by muslims, and that the 'laddish' attitudes of Marc Ellis and co. bear no comparison to the attitudes to women of those men raised Islamic.

 
At 4/12/06 10:22 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Raised Islamic?

Crickey! By that logic, that must make my dad and brother rapists too! Wait, that must make all rapists through out the world raised islamically too.

What a fountain of knowledge you are gwb.

-Anti-Flag.

 
At 5/12/06 10:27 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Given that Anti-Flag is the slapper of the AK anti-zionist crowd, her comments are especially funny.

 
At 5/12/06 10:29 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Marc Ellis reinforces the perception of women in society of being no more than sexual. These derogatory representations mould the mind of men to understand women as tools to satisfying their sexual desires-Making them less human. She therefore becomes worthy of rape- a form of control of women that is grounded in this understanding that she is subordinate. She MUST be subordinate."

Yes, the foolish men of New Zealand are merely putty in the hands of the evil genius that is Marc Ellis with his goal of having every man in New Zealand become a practicing rapist, they find Sports Cafe an entertaining show, Marc's work is nearly done!

Christ, you are a tool anti-flag, do you actually believe the fucking shit you write or is this some kind of wind-up for you?

 
At 5/12/06 3:27 pm, Blogger bomber said...

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Anti-flag - you know you really have gotten under their skin when they start attacking you personally - 35 posts, and many from angry men shouting that they aren't sexist, interesting isn't it? I don't think there is really anything that can be debated in Toni Bruce's analysis - Sportscafe was exactly what she said it was - a sexist little boys place for poor hard done by blokes who can go and act like blokes without feeling like they have to watch what they say. Yet pointing out that truth is suddenly akin to being an uptight dyke - I sometimees think NZ has stepped back to the 1980s

 
At 5/12/06 6:54 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haha bomber, indeed.

Anonymous: I've done extensive research where derogatory representations of women- more specifically sexual-has devastating impacts on the perception men have of women. Women's role, in their mind, therefore becomes scripted- any challenge to that is seen as a threat and alien. Pornography is an extreme example of industries that mould men's understanding of women's role in this. There is a strong correlation between sexual representations of women and rape- which is an attempt to regain power, control and to adhere to the gender script.

If the media can easily persuade people to go to war- surely, it can define our understandings of women depending on how it chooses to present them. In this day and age, our understanding of the world, and of one another, and even of ourselves is heavily depended on media institutions which creates its own reality for us. It creates the roles and dictates attitudes- its profound impact on us cannot just simply be shrugged off because we're talking about a comic context. Those jokes reflecting certain attitudes come from somewhere after all.

-Anti-Flag.

 
At 6/12/06 7:21 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My partner is an intelligent woman with a great career.
My partner is a wonderful caring mother.
My partner is a sexy, attractive woman, who takes pride in her appearance.

Intelligent, caring, and sexually attractive.

I guess life isn't black and white.

 
At 7/12/06 10:56 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In case there is any confusion on the matter, you can take it from someone who identifies himself instead of posting anonymously (this is Ryan Sproull) that Anti-Flag is as close to being the opposite of a slapper as possible without it becoming a whole different kind of insult.

Just saying, because you never know how the throwaway insult of an anonymous random might colour people's perception if they thought s/he had any idea what s/he was talking about.

 
At 7/12/06 1:36 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In case there is any confusion on the matter, you can take it from someone who identifies himself instead of posting anonymously (this is Ryan Sproull)

THEN WHY IS YOUR BLOG PROFILE BLOCKED.

LIAR.

 
At 7/12/06 7:37 pm, Blogger snigie said...

Everyone should just wrestle this issue out. in jelly.

 
At 8/12/06 7:00 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

 
At 8/12/06 10:25 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So lets get it straight: it is fine for Anti-Flag and her acolytes to slander people in their posts, but when something quite truthful gets thrown back at her/them, you delete the post. Nice.

Bomber--now YOU are the tosser!

 
At 8/12/06 6:53 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous: Who have i slandered? Tell me.

I don't exactly know what was said for it to be deleted, but Bomber seems to tolerate a lot of posts that others most probably would delete. From both sides. I mean he did allow a post by some anonymous person who called me a slapper- even though such ad hominems are detrimental to the person themself rather than the target. But everyone, including Bomber, i assume has their limitations. This must have been one of those times.

-Anti-Flag.

 
At 9/12/06 10:58 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Profile unlocked.

Just apologise for calling her a slapper and move on.

Not that there's anything wrong with being a slapper. I mean, I'm a dirty ol' man-slut of a human being. It's just that, in Anti-Flag's case, you're wrong.

Just who do you think she is? I wouldn't mind if there was a slapper of the AK anti-Zionist crowd. That'd be awesome.

Oh, apologise for calling me a liar, too. You'll feel better about yourself, I promise.

 
At 10/12/06 1:24 pm, Blogger snigie said...

Or whipped cream if thats not to big of an ask?...

 

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