Cluster love
Where are all those voices who were defending Israeli action against Lebanon now?
Cluster-bomb threat plagues war zone
NEW YORK - Cluster bombs dropped by Israel on southern Lebanon in its month-long war with Hizbollah are still killing or injuring three to four civilians a day, a third of them children, land mine activists say.
Groups helping Lebanon clear unexploded mines from the war zone have identified 770 sites hit by cluster bombs during the conflict that ended on August 14, Landmine Action says. More than 45,000 unexploded bomblets have been cleared but hundreds of thousands litter the countryside and it will take up to two years to get the situation under control.
REUTERS
posted by Bomber @ 2:51 pm
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"Where are all those voices who were defending Israeli action against Lebanon now?"
Ummm They got a bit bored with your constant highly politicised crap?
Or.....
They've got a life and are out enjoying it?
Or.......
well I guess none of this would of happen if they didnt kiddnap the Isreali soilders from there posts.
but they reep what they sow, now why is Lebanon so suprised?
Anonymous.
Where have you been for the past couple of months.
The facts of Israel's long term planning, it's own kidnapping and incarceration of Lebanese and Palestinians and the strong evidence that the so-called kidnapping by Hezbollah took place on the Lebanese side of the border have long since put the lie to the assertion that Israel was provoked.
...of course you conveniently forgot to mention that Hizbollah also fired cluster type rockets into civilian areas of Israel.
Anonymous: Are you comparing 1.4 million cluster bomblets to the 4000 Hizbullah used? The latter which was quickly cleared up by Israeli authorities. While Israel refuses to inform the other side of their location.
The fact that Israel used majority of them in the last 3 days before the ceasefire- goes to show it really isn't seeking peace with its neighbours. But then again, it serves their agenda if they radicalise their opponents so in the next process- to reach a 'peace agreement'- they can conveninently wave the certificate of noone to talk to. Clever.
-Anti-Flag.
Hizbullah fired rockets containing ball-bearings, not cluster bombs. Most credible reports indicate they were fired at military targets that, contrary to the Israeli propaganda, are almost invariably situated in civilian areas - particularly the Arab villages in the North of Israel.
Anon
Whether Hizbullah fired ball-bearings or peanuts if they had the weapons you cant tell me that Hizbullah wouldnt of used them.
Why should Isreal seek peace they are hated by so many, its engained there history and for what?
I to remember when this started and a lebanonize women pleaded for the lebanon govt to release the Isreali soilders. hmmmm maybe Isreal is just sick of being treated like shit. Good for them, I dont agree with the killing but it high time they stand up for themselves.
Dear Anonymous,
The "Go fuck yourself" is totally unecessary and unwelcome. Mostly people use this type of verbage when they are lying or dead wrong and know it - so which was it.
I find most of your comments to be completely biased, inaccurate, and of the Crimson Neck variety, you aren't informed as much as opinionated and thick minded.
Cluster bombs are 100 times more deadly, and completely banned in Civilain areas by the Geneva Convention, and many other accords.
Hizbollah used 1970's technology against America's most recent high tech arsenal that was supplied to Israel per-gratis. No comparison.
War is wrong no matter what the argument. Israel and Hizbollah need to stand accountable, but the Lion's share of the Blame go to the Israeli's. It has been also proven as fact that this invasion was pre-planned by Benjaymin Netanyahu and Dick Cheney in a meeting in early August in Colorado.
Get your facts straight before you throw eggs - you are the one wearing the egg on your mug mate!
Anom, (nice n easy name) you are streching it to far to say Hizbollah was firing at military targets with its completely imprecise missiles but anyway
Anom, Israel was not protecting its self when it used cluster bombs in the last days when it knew hostilities were drawing to a close.
If one was to look at this conflict in purely objective terms Israel is the villin in that they killed 10x as many and most of them were civilians, and they were the one who launched millitary strikes against anotehr country. It has also crippled lebannons economy by the use of cluster weapons which is oddly enough what they are designed to do, keep your enemy beat per say.
HOWEVER all that being said Israel is hated by well the whole of the middle east. It has its land from force and it treats those it has dispossed with contempt and so this is not really a surprise. However on the backdrop of this hatred can it be justified over reacting to every little threat so as to not show weakness which they believe is their best defence. My gut says no but i know if it was my future families lives on the line I wouldnt be taking matters lightly.
Israel did have a chance back in the 90s tl achieve peace with most of its neighbours unfortunately due to a portion of its own population dont believe in compromise (including Sharon who WAS EVIL) this opportunity has gone and i dont think will ever come back. Israel believes its best defence is destroying the economic backbone of those around it. I dont think it is but then again im not facing extermination in NZ am I
"im not facing extermination in NZ am I"
Neither is Israel.
Israel has 2-300 Nukes, gets billions of dollars in U.S. Military aid and faces an enemy equipped with mostly World War 2 vintage and home-made armaments.
Israel's enemies do not threaten it's existence. Hamas have indicated a willingness to accept the 1967 borders, Fatah have settled for less, Iran, which has not attacked anyone for over a hundred years, calls for an end to the Zionist REGIME.
Iran is correct. Israel, under it's current regime, will not allow a neighbour to exist. The One State solution is the only one with a possibility of permanent success.
Thus Israel and it's neighbours want the same thing - one Country. Except, of course, Israel wants it cleared of those pesky Arabs first.
It is only when these facts are taken on board that any sense can be made of the actions of the various parties to this dispute.
Anonymous, Hamas has done more than indicate a willingness to negotiate. The 2002 Arab League's Beirut declaration of recognising Israel, normalising economic relations and permanent peace in return for Israel returning to its pre-1967 borders is a prime example. Both Hamas and Iran agreed to it. What did Israel do? It rejected it 'cause it serves their agenda to show they got no one to talk to. Or else they'll be forced to make concessions. God forbid.
-Anti-Flag.
Anti-Flag, Hamas has only recently, and indirectly, accepted the 2002 Arab League initiative, via the Prisoners' Document. (incidentally the Prisoners' Document was dismissed by Israel as "meaningless" and an "internal Palestinian matter", just as the Arab League initiative was dismissed as "irrelevant" at the time, despite having the backing of 22 Arab states, including Saddam Husayn's Iraq). The PLO accepted the initiative on behalf of the Palestinians. Hamas is not a member of the PLO and has always rejected its status as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. Hamas also rejects Oslo, despite now attempting to work within the institutions it spawned. (It justifies this stance through some rather unconvincing rhetorical contortions). Hamas is not willing to negotiate directly at this time, but has said that the president's office may conduct any negotiations that come their way. That said, Hamas does not support the incremental approach to negotiations favoured by anti-Semite turned American/Israeli puppet, Abu Mazen. (one might say with good reason, since in practical terms the Oslo accords facilitated an accelerated colonisation campaign in the oPt's, whilst the appearance of negotiations gave diplomatic cover). Hamas has made a strategic decision to coexist with a two-state settlement, but has not yet adopted this as an organisational position.
As for Iran's stance on the initiative, I was not aware of any state outside the Arab League having accepted it. Do you have a link in support of this assertion?
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