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Thursday, August 24, 2006

Our Great and Mighty Justice System and other stories

I get a little tired of the voices we get on this site and hear in the mainstream that our justice system is so pure and un-corrupt and everyone in prison deserves it.

Let’s have a wee look at the recent case of Rex Haig

Okay, so we have two guys, David Hogan and Tony Sewell who cut a deal with Prosecutors that in return for their evidence which nails Rex Haig for the murder of Mark Roderique., Hogan and Sewell get PAID (Hogan gets $13 000) AND they get immunity from any prosecution that is signed by the Attorney-General. Sewell later dies in an 'accident'.

To make things even MORE dodgy, Anton Sherlock comes to the Police and tells them that Hogan confessed the murder of Roderique to him. This line of inquiry ends abruptly as Sherlock is murdered.

I’m sorry, but this stinks. Two guys give the Prosecution the information they need to convict Haig of murder, in return get immunity AND money. PLUS when Sherlock comes forward claiming Hogan confessed the Roderique murder, Sherlock is suddenly murdered. Oh and Haig rots in prison for 10 years.

HOW CAN THIS BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN IN THE NZ JUSTICE SYSTEM!

Why should Prosecutions be allowed this level of discretionary power to cut immunity deals AND CASH DEALS to gain questionable evidence? Where is the oversight to make sure Prosecutions aren’t corrupted with that power? Was Anton Sherlock given any protection when he came forward to the Police with the information that Hogan had confessed the Roderique murder? How deeply did the Police go into Sherlock’s murder? Is the man serving a sentence for that murder also innocent?

And why the hell didn’t the media in this country do a better job of holding the system to account?

Ooops, I forgot. Everyone in Prison is a dirty filthy criminal who deserve all they get, and our Justice and Police system is the least corrupt in the world, and the media only entertain and maintain mis-perceptions, they don’t challenge authority.

Go back to sleep NZ, drink some beer and watch some rugby


What is it with Christian’s and beating their kids?
Those wacky Christian's, what is it with them and beating their kids hu? They love it so much they want their school’s to administer corporal punishment. This is a message to ANY kid at one of these cult schools, if your school hits you, TELL US and we will take them to court for assault. God can work it out later.

Probe school strapping, say Greens
Green MP Sue Bradford says education authorities must investigate whether private Christian schools are flouting the law after repeated refusals by several schools to reveal their policies on corporal punishment. The call follows reports in the Herald of Tyndale Park Christian School's corporal punishment policy under which parents "authorised" the school to strap their children. Under the Education Act 1989, the use of force is illegal at schools except by a parent or guardian of the child. The Ministry of Education said the power of the parent cannot be delegated to the school.
New Zealand Herald


Note to Japan: STOP STEALING OUR FISH YOU WHALE EATING BASTARDS!
Apart from trying to kill whales for “Scientific Research” - let’s just take a moment for the whole concept of “Scientific Research” - Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha - Thank you, apart from trying to kill whales for “Scientific Research” (giggle) The Japanese also seem to be raping our seas of fish. Now I don’t wish to seem unfair, BUT STOP STEALING OUR FISH!

Japanese in gun for over-fishing Tasman tuna
Japan looks set to be called to account over accusations that it has grossly overfished southern bluefin tuna stocks in southern waters including the Tasman Sea. The tuna species, valuable for its high fat content, came under voluntary conservation measures in the mid-1980s after heavy fishing resulted in a significant decline in mature fish. The Commission for the Conservation of Southern Bluefin Tuna, of which New Zealand was a founding member with Australia and Japan, was established in 1993 to manage the stocks. The Minister of Fisheries, Jim Anderton, said yesterday that reviews of market data in Japan allegedly showed a huge discrepancy between what was being sold and what was being caught.
New Zealand Herald


Israeli Justice?
Arresting politicians and charging them with trumped up offences is an old tactic from most despotic regimes. I particularly like the fact that the Israeli’s shackled him in court.

Israel charges Hamas politician
The Palestinian parliament speaker, led in shackles into an Israeli military court, has been charged with membership in an outlawed organisation. Abd al-Aziz Dweik becomes the most senior of three dozen Hamas officials rounded up by Israel to be indicted so far. Dweik said on Tuesday that he does not recognise the court's authority. "It is a political trial, and I don't recognise it," Dweik said. "I am an elected official." Dweik was brought into the courtoom in the Ofer Prison Camp with his feet shackled. He wore a brown pajama-style outfit, and his normally long beard was trimmed. The military prosecutor charged Dweik with membership and activity in an outlawed organisation.
Aljazeera


Throwing your toys in the sandpit
IDF gets embarrassed, Olmert needs to look tough, illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank stay, anyone surprised?

Israel Shelves Plan to Pull Out Of Settlements In West Bank
JERUSALEM, Aug. 22 -- The Israeli government's plan to dismantle some Jewish settlements in the West Bank and redraw the country's borders is being shelved at least temporarily, a casualty of the war in Lebanon, government officials said. The plan, which propelled Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to victory in March elections and was warmly endorsed by President Bush as a way of solving Israel's conflict with the Palestinians, is no longer a top priority, Olmert told his ministers last weekend, according to one of his advisers. Instead, the government must spend its money and efforts in northern Israel to repair the damage from the war and strengthen the area in case fighting breaks out again, Olmert said.
Washington Post


DAD’S ARMY
As the youth generation in America wise up to Military recruiters, the Army is having trouble convincing them that Iraq is an exciting way to pay your student loan. So to compensate, the Marines are calling up old men to go fight for their oil. Sing with me as you read folks, “Who do you think you are kidding Mr Terrorist, if you think old America is done”

Troop shortfall hits US marines
The Marine Corps will soon begin ordering thousands of its soldiers back to active duty because of a shortage of volunteers for Iraq and Afghanistan. This will be the marines' first involuntary recall since the early days of the US-led "war on terror". Up to 2,500 soldiers will be brought back at a time, and there is no cap on the total number who may be forced back into service as the military helps fight the "war on terror". The call-ups will begin in the next several months. The number of soldiers in Iraq has climbed back to 138,000 - the prevailing number for much of last year.
Troop levels had been declining this year, to a low of about 127,000, amid growing calls from congress and the public for a phased withdrawal. Increasing violence in Baghdad has led military leaders to increase the US presence there. This is the first time the marines have had to use the involuntary recall since the beginning of the Iraq combat. The army, meanwhile, has issued orders recalling about 10,000 soldiers so far, but many of those may be granted exemptions.
Aljazeera


Israel deliberately targeted civilians? Anti-Semitic Rubbish!
Civilians Israeli targets says Amnesty
LONDON - Rights group Amnesty International accused Israel yesterday of deliberately targeting civilians during its campaign against Hizbollah in Lebanon and said the Jewish state might be guilty of war crimes. Not only were food shops purposely destroyed by shelling and air attacks, Amnesty said, but aid convoys were blocked and hospitals and public utilities like water and power plants put out of action to force people to flee. "The evidence strongly suggests that the extensive destruction of public works, power systems, civilian homes and industry was deliberate and an integral part of the military strategy rather than collateral damage," Amnesty said. Israel says it did not target civilians and had warned non-combatants to leave south Lebanon. It also accused Hizbollah of launching rockets from civilian areas. Amnesty called for the United Nations to quickly set up an independent inquiry into breaches of international humanitarian law.
REUTERS

21 Comments:

At 24/8/06 11:12 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

True True True our justice system sucks!!! The prosecutors are doing alright they got the job done, got paid well, end of story. I say down the track Rex Haig should publish a book and get a big as lump pay out for all the time and stress that this guy and his family and friends had to go through. Makes you wonder about the Bain case doesn't it... Remember Arthur Allen Thomas????? I rest my case I just had to get this off my chest but why do I feel so sad

 
At 24/8/06 12:24 pm, Blogger Brewerstroupe said...

"Instead, the government must spend its money and efforts in northern Israel to repair the damage from the war and strengthen the area in case fighting breaks out again, Olmert said."

Isn't this a lovely piece of logic. Israel spends $156m each year to subsidise settlers in the West Bank, millions more on the IDF to back them up and now can't withdraw because resources are needed elsewhere. Wouldn't withdrawing free up resources?

"in case fighting breaks out again"

Wot?

Has Olmert completely lost control of the Israeli Armed Forces? Might they attack Lebanon again without telling him?

 
At 24/8/06 2:48 pm, Blogger HardLabour said...

brewerstroupe ... my workmates n i find ur arguments both honestly factual and couragously independent, all of which our mainstrean news media is lacking in. Well done.

 
At 24/8/06 3:29 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is it with Islam and killing infidels? This wacky cult needs to be outlawed.

 
At 24/8/06 3:41 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous - perhaps you would like to give us your legal basis for your opinion on each case, or like Bomber, are your "facts" based on what you read on the fish and chip paper.

Bomber didnt you mention something earlier about the press when you spoke at some school recently........

 
At 24/8/06 7:28 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ipso facto Bomber, some of us get a little tired of hearing how bent the cops, judges, prosecutors, witnesses and juries are....oh, and how everyone who gets convicted has undoubtably been shafted.

Seeing you go on about fairness a lot, please tell us who you think was rightfully convicted, maybe starting with William Bell!

Perhaps you could even suggest a better way to do things?

 
At 24/8/06 7:36 pm, Anonymous Jihad Jack said...

Now I know why the likes of Timothy McVeigh take 'action direct'. Writing "thousands of letters" to Goff and his henchmen is a glorius waste of effort, better to take a leaf out of Osamas book and focus their minds with a bit of jelly.

 
At 24/8/06 7:58 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

taichi taro says...


"jihad jack what are you saying?

Using bombs is wrong!

oh by the way anonymous... that was nicely spotted about what bomber sayed at the school...
could you refresh our memory about that? or tell us which post to refer to?"

cheers

sincerely

taichi taro

 
At 24/8/06 8:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ps i aggree that bribing witnesses to testify is a rediculous way of acheiving justice.

taichi taro

 
At 24/8/06 8:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Hey. I don't usually take offence BUT I drink beer and watch THE rugby.

I was also in the middle of one of the anti-war ( a little to much DOWN WITH ISRAEL, which made it sound like an angry rugby crowd ) marches along Queen st. And have taken part in quite a few other protests over the years so please don't generalize NZ that way.

Nothing like a cold beer after some civil disobedience.

 
At 24/8/06 8:04 pm, Anonymous Jihad Jack said...

Fitting up innocent people and rewarding murderers is a bigger wrong than blowing up the perpetrating pigs.

 
At 24/8/06 8:05 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget the Scott Watson case. I know who the secret witness to his "confession" is and what he recieved for it. All lies for his own gains at the cost of another mans life.

 
At 24/8/06 8:12 pm, Anonymous Jihad Jack said...

Name please Anonymous

 
At 24/8/06 9:51 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And while we are on the subject of the Scott Watson case, I suppose the witness had a degree in boats. He/She couldn't even tell one from another....
Wouldn't it be a bastard for that secret witness and the cops if both were alive somewhere in Briton having planned and successfully escaped from whatever it was they were escaping from.......

 
At 25/8/06 6:10 am, Anonymous Jihad Jack said...

"Anonymous said...
taichi taro says...


"jihad jack what are you saying?

Using bombs is wrong!"

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"Using bombs" worked for Rex Haig, he and his "thousands of letters" to everyone he could think of, including the media who don't really give a damn, were ignored until he threatened to blow up a few prison guards. Granted, the creeps in control made him sit out the rest of his lag as punishment for his last resort action but he achieved his ultimate aim of having his conviction overturned. Well done Rex, you showed the bastards up for what they really are, a pack of dirty rotten scoundrels.

 
At 25/8/06 11:29 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

taichi-taro

I think i saw something about it on the news... but i don't get it.. what are you saying that he threatened to bomb people while in prison and that was what got the attention to get his conviction overturned?

taichi taro sayed

 
At 25/8/06 12:31 pm, Anonymous RR said...

Excellent. You've come up with..hmm...two examples of Justice 'fit-ups'..in the LAST 10 YEARS. Thinking harder, there might be maybe 2 more, shit, maybe 10. Out of 6000 people in prison (most of whom have only been there since '96 i'd suggest) Is your solution in search of problem?

 
At 27/8/06 12:43 am, Blogger Brewerstroupe said...

Hardlabour.

Thanks those kind words and the others below. Makes it worthwhile.

Happy days.

 
At 27/8/06 8:13 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rex Haig eh? Could your short attention span read as far as para 108 of the Appeal Court judgement:
[108] On the material available, we would not be prepared to enter a judgment of acquittal. There remains a credible case against the appellant which our judgment has not disposed of. If there were to be a retrial, it would be open to a jury to find the appellant guilty.

 
At 27/8/06 9:27 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The phrase "spare the rod, spoil the child" refered to the rods shepards used. They used the rods to guide the sheep, not beat them. Children need guidance, not beatings.

I don't believe that Christians are more likely to beat their kids than non-christians do.

 
At 31/8/06 4:06 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

rr my friend, two is two to many.

 

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