PM pushes for blitz on bottle shops
PM pushes for blitz on bottle shops
Prime Minister Helen Clark wants to crack down on the number of liquor outlets in poor areas of New Zealand in the wake of killings and robberies that have shocked the country. She said yesterday that she wants Parliament to revisit liquor laws to cut the number of liquor outlets. The police had a "grave concern" about the role of alcohol consumption in violent offending in the area. "This is a matter I am personally taking extremely seriously," Helen Clark said last night. "It seems to me inevitable that Parliament will have to revisit some of the consequences of the 1989 liquor legislation."
Hmmm – yes and no. Yes we should have a massive clamp down on the venues that sell booze, the price we sell it at and the number of places it can be sold at – but that has to be a strategy adopted by everywhere in NZ, the no is that it is only adopted in ‘poor areas’, alcoholism is a problem with associated consequences throughout the class spectrum, it is most visible when it is headline grabbing crime in South Auckland but doesn’t mean the consequences of alcohol liberalization aren’t felt everywhere in NZ. Education can only go so far, I’m in no way a fan of prohibition, but Alcohol, like cigarettes, are prohibited products and narrowing the ability to buy it everywhere is a positive and a strategy that should have been pursued well before this shooting took place.
posted by Bomber @ 7:04 am
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Not sure how the price of booze impacts people who steal at the point of a gun.
One possible consequence of reducing the number of outlets in 'poor' areas is that those remaining get knocked over more often and / or those in adjacent not-so-poor areas then become targets.
I'd like to have a look at the personality profiles of the guys who were involved in the killing of Mr. Singh. That should give us the best idea of where to start looking at how to address that problem.
Why are they the sort of people who would do it?
I think alcohol should be banned from the small dairies in all suburbs, definitely. Keep wine and beer available at the big supermarkets and STDs etc only available at fully licensed liquor stores.
NS
Absolutely
If we don't keep those Sexually Transmitted Diseases in fully licensed liquor shops anyoe will be able to get one!
In the 14th century, the average pleb drank 8 imperieal pints of beer a day, the Nobs drank two pints of Brandy - I'm not sure we have a problem with alcohol.
The problem we have is with societal norms! THese young people have been banned from 'competing' throughout school, and never been chasitsed for bad behaviour. THey leave school and suddenly the real world hits them! THey have to WORK to earn money; they have to compete for a job; no one is making things easy for them; so what do they do? SImple, if it isn't being spoon fed to them they form up an intimidating group and take what they want! The terrible thing is they don't know what they've done wrong!
It's time to reintroduce corporeal punishment in schools, and resestablish discipline and respect for others in schools and homes. AT ALL LEVELS of society! This is not a class or income level challenge, this is hitting us at all levels, and if we don't start acting as a society that expects (and gives) respect, with social consequences and disciple for breaches of resonable behaviour, then we will get the social environment we deserve - as we are really starting to see.
In the '90s it was hooligans and mobs at major holidays, in the '00s it is intimidation, hooligans and thugs everywhere all the time, if we're not careful the '10s will be about armed mobs taking what they want, where they want when they want, with the police occasionally able to slap them over the wrist!
I wonder if ir's hard to emmigrate to Vanuatu?
Oops, sorry, obviously I meant RTDs...doh!
NS
Just replace welfare with vouchers, so the state doesn't provide their alcohol, ciggys or sky tv, and then make life mean life.
Simple - you want piss, get a job...
Yes Bomber, making them walk a few hundred extra yards is going to fix the problem.
This latest brainfart from Clark demonstrates quite clearly how fricken clueless and completely divorced from reality she is.
Dog chipping anyone? Another kneejerk response that has not stopped one child getting their face eaten by a dog.
Support for the south auckland crimezone needs to go hand in hand with a much tougher attitude towards the law breakers.
"If the Prime Minister were genuine about dealing with this problem, she would be demanding that the laws we already have are enforced - and looking at the contributing factors of education and welfare.
Instead she is pushing for regulations that, while having a minimal effect on criminals, will penalise those New Zealanders who already obey the law - in the same vein as dog micro-chipping and the Anti-Smacking legislation."
Well said Heather Roy.
Who will enforce the law then? And if it is not enforced, why have a law.Police in Manakau are calling in reinforcements from outside the district to cope with crime because the number of sworn officers per head of population in Counties Manakau is the second-lowest in the country.
I wonder how many are on traffic duty.
This is typical liberal bullshit, shifting the blame away from those ultimately responsible- the savage scum who committed the murder. Lots of intellectual fuzzy wuzzys feeling smug about helping their brown cousins by taking away the temptation of the firewater. No condemnation of those who did it.
looks like the little hood will have to shop outside the area for booze...
Hmmmm that sounds hard..
I am glad we don't have nukes the govt can play with..
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