Gaza death toll 'tops 900'
Medical officials say the Palestinian death toll in the Gaza offensive Israel began 17 days ago had risen past 900 and included at least 380 civilians.
3500 have also been maimed, a University bombed, the Parliament building bombed, infrastructure bombed and of course let’s not forget the 3 UN schools that were bombed although Israel initially lied about being fired upon to justify that particular massacre. At the beginning of this invasion I predicted that as this indefensible act got increasingly bloody we would have the same situation occur as had happened in the Lebanon war once it was revealed that Israel lied about the two soldiers being kidnapped as the reason for that massacre. During the Lebanon war we saw Israeli apologist after Israeli apologist quietly slip away as the truth was uncovered and we are seeing the same thing here now as this latest invasion becomes utterly repugnant, but for those who are horrified by what Israel is doing we must not tire and turn away on news from the media that Israel claims they have finalized their goal and are near ending this butchery when the truth is that right now Israel are pushing even harder into Gaza, this will not end until the day before Obama is sworn in, that means Israel will continue this madness for another 6 days, we must not ease on protesting against them by letting this bloodletting fade into the news background.
we would have the same situation occur as had happened in the Lebanon war once it was revealed that Israel lied about the two soldiers being kidnapped as the reason for that massacre.
ReplyDeleteIt is the same situation as Lebanon. Israel planned an invasion in advance because they anticipated an attack (_in this case rocket fire after the lapse of the cease fire). Hizbollah threatened kidnappings and more bombings if their men imprisoned
in Israel for the killing of civilians were not freed. Israel would be stupid not to be prepared for a counter attack if Hizbollah followed through with it's threats (which it did).
Another thing. You will find the article you keep referring to which supposedly uncovered these "lies" is widely mocked for his repeated use of imaginary "anonymous sources". Both US and Israel officials have said his article is fictional.
Israel planned an invasion in advance because they anticipated an attack (_in this case rocket fire after the lapse of the cease fire). Hizbollah threatened kidnappings and more bombings if their men imprisoned in Israel for the killing of civilians were not freed. Israel would be stupid not to be prepared for a counter attack if Hizbollah followed through with it's threats (which it did).
ReplyDeleteThat is an incredibly narrow view of the facts
Another thing. You will find the article you keep referring to which supposedly uncovered these "lies" is widely mocked for his repeated use of imaginary "anonymous sources". Both US and Israel officials have said his article is fictional.
The man who uncovered the torture abuse at Abu Ghraib and the Malai Massacre is wrong about the Israeli Army meeting in America with American officials to greenlight an attack on Hizbollah and use any excuse for the invasion, and used the kidnapped soldiers as that excuse to attack Lebanon and negotiate from a position of increased awe of the Israeli military machine - Seymour Hersh is wrong about all of that is he?
The difference is his story on Abu Ghraib was based on a pubicly available military report and verified sources. His Lebanon story is based on speculation by a "Middle East expert with knowledge of the current thinking of both the Israeli and the U.S. governments".
ReplyDeleteThat is an incredibly narrow view of the facts
Seymour Hersh's views and reporting have been widely discredited.
ReplyDeletehttp://beirut2bayside.blogspot.com/2007/02/sylight-zone.html
This blog has some authority, the author is Tony Badren, Research Fellow (Levant), Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
And what about this also from Badren
"Just to follow up on the brain-numbing topic of Sy Hersh. I had argued that one of Hersh's sources may have been Syrian ambassador Imad Moustapha. My argument has since been bolstered, unveiling a larger network of Syrian tools feeding Hersh his material.
Indeed, some of Hersh's sources have been exposed in Lebanese papers and media and they include a Syrian businessman by the name of Raja Sidawi. But the main minder, it seems, is an old reliable Syrian tool by the name of Michel Samaha, a Lebanese former minister and Syrian agent extraordinaire. It seems that he has been the major source feeding Hersh all this venomous nonsense (including, by the way, that stupid -- and as always, false -- story about Israelis and Kurds that Hersh made up in another piece). Another source is reportedly Farid Abboud, who is Imad Moustapha's personal poodle, and who, despite being relieved from his duty as ambassador to the US, still loiters around, at the behest of his boss Emile Lahoud (Syria's primo pitbull), only to sabotage the Lebanese government any chance he gets. This includes feeding lies to ignorant journalists.
There are others as well, including people close to Jamil al-Sayyed, the former Syrian-handpicked security chief in Lebanon who is now in jail awaiting trial for his role in helping the Syrians in the murder of Rafik Hariri. Sayyed's entourage and lawyer have also been busy putting garbage out in asinine sympathetic publications like Le Monde Diplomatique. That garbage is basically repeating the Syrian regime's orchestrated slander against the former UN investigator Detlev Mehlis as well as against the tribunal (too bad it was all for naught as the tribunal was passed under Chapter VII at the UNSC).
This same slanderous attack against Mehlis and the UNIIIC was irresponsibly picked up in one of the reports by the International Crisis Group, whose luminaries Peter Harling and Gareth Evans also regurgitated the regime's line regarding the tribunal on separate occasions in al-Hayat.
But never fear. The buzz from Hersh's pathetic cheerleading squad is that the intrepid journalist's next article will pick up where they left off and attack Mehlis and others whom Syria considers its enemies in Lebanon by virtue of what they do (looking for the perpetrators of the Hariri assassination, in Mehlis's case, or advocating Lebanese sovereignty, in the case of the March 14 coalition). Always ahead of the times that Hersh! He'll be very useful for the regime who will feed him garbage on the tribunal and the investigation, then quote him afterwards as they did with the Fateh al-Islam story.
Hersh's aspiration now, it seems, is to be a willing tool for murderous thugs. Just as long as they hate Bush as much as he does. He has found his comfortable niche."
"Pordes remarked that the last time a party was banned it was the late Rabbi Meir Kahane's Kach Party, a list from the 1980s that advocated the expulsion of Arabs from Israel. "
ReplyDeleteSeems pretty even handed to me.
I remember this. They went on a peace mission!
Money laundering, funding Hizbollah, suggesting prime targets etc
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/24/israel
I think this is a better solution that the killing of political opponents which happens in Gaza.
Anon 11:17 what is your opinion on Germany banning neo-nazi political parties?
ReplyDelete"this will not end until the day before Obama is sworn in"
ReplyDeleteYou wanna put money on that big guy?
This blog has some authority, the author is Tony Badren, Research Fellow (Levant), Foundation for Defense of Democracies
ReplyDelete"The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD) is a neoconservative think tank that claims to conduct "research and education on international terrorism
Daniel McCarthy expressed an enhanced view of FDD's origins in the November 17, 2003, issue of The American Conservative.[1]
In early 2001, a tightly knit group of billionaire philanthropists conceived of a plan to win American sympathy for Israel's response to the Palestinian intifada."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Foundation_for_the_Defense_of_Democracies#Origins_of_FDD
Sheesh, the standard of trolls is sure dropping around here.
This in the revitalised and rejuvenated Listener brightened my day...
ReplyDeleteDuring the troubles in Northern Ireland in the 70s, 80s and 90s, I found it increasingly difficult to support the Provisional IRA, because of the evil and thuggish methods it used to get its message across, despite being a so-called “progressive” people’s organisation. I have reluctantly come to the same conclusion about Hamas, with its “destroy Israel and kill or drive out all the Jews” rhetoric.
I have been strongly critical of Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in the past, especially the expanding Jewish settlements on the occupied West Bank (annexation by stealth) and I may well be so again in the future. However, I cannot, in good conscience, join demonstrations condemning Israeli aggression, unless the demonstrators also call on Hamas to stop its rocket attacks against Israeli civilians and join with Al Fatah and Mahmoud Abbas in negotiating for a Palestinian state (on the West Bank and Gaza) co-existing alongside Israel. (I know that Hamas will never agree to this.) That is the only way this never-ending conflict can be resolved in a way that recognises the rights of all peoples in the region.
Sixty years of violence has achieved nothing. As a former anti-apartheid activist, I would like to remind former colleagues in now defunct anti-racist groups Hart and Care, who are supporting Hamas and like-minded groups, that Nelson Mandela and the ANC didn’t get where they are today by threatening to throw all the whites in South Africa into the sea. A negotiated, two-state solution is the only outcome that will end this tragedy once and for all. Two wrongs have never made a right and never will.
John Watkins
Very interesting parallels between N Ireland and South Africa. Only by renouncing violence on both sides can you come to the table in good conscience and truly advocate peace. For me the question remains ... Are Hamas and Israel anywhere ready to do this. Sadly not in my opinion regardless of this latest 'conflict'.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile I feel sicker and sicker as the innocents suffer and die ... Any loss of life be it Arab or Israeli is a loss too much.
Watkins has obviously never read any of Hamas' rhetoric:
ReplyDeleteOur message to the Israelis is this: we do not fight you because you belong to a certain faith or culture. Jews have lived in the Muslim world for 13 centuries in peace and harmony; they are in our religion "the people of the book" who have a covenant from God and His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) to be respected and protected. Our conflict with you is not religious but political. We have no problem with Jews who have not attacked us - our problem is with those who came to our land, imposed themselves on us by force, destroyed our society and banished our people.
We shall never recognise the right of any power to rob us of our land and deny us our national rights. We shall never recognise the legitimacy of a Zionist state created on our soil in order to atone for somebody else's sins or solve somebody else's problem. But if you are willing to accept the principle of a long-term truce, we are prepared to negotiate the terms. Hamas is extending a hand of peace to those who are truly interested in a peace based on justice.
Khalid Mashal.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jan/31/comment.israelandthepalestinians
Mashal is the Director of Hamas' Political Bureau. His offer of peace is all the more remarkable because of his experience at the hands of Israel:
On September 25, 1997, Mashal was the target of an assassination attempt carried out by the Israeli Mossad under orders from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his security cabinet. Ten Mossad agents carrying Canadian passports entered Jordan, where Mashal was living. They broke into a home where he was sleeping and then applied a deadly poison to his neck.[5] At the time of the assassination attempt Mashal was considered Hamas' Jordanian branch chief. He told Third Way Magazine: "Israeli threats have one of two effects: some people are intimidated, but others become more defiant and determined. I am one of the latter."[6]
Jordanian authorities discovered the assassination attempt and arrested two Mossad agents who had engaged in the attempt. Jordan's King Hussein then demanded that Benjamin Netanyahu turn over the poison antidote, and at first Netanyahu refused. As the incident began to grow in political significance, however, American President Bill Clinton intervened and forced Netanyahu to turn over the antidote. [7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaled_Mashal
anon@10.04 am said:
ReplyDeleteAnother thing. You will find the article you keep referring to which supposedly uncovered these "lies" is widely mocked for his repeated use of imaginary "anonymous sources". Both US and Israel officials have said his article is fictional.
Would tis be officials from the same US government that assured us that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction? And from the same Israeli government that told us they fired on a UN school because Hamas was firing from within the school? The same government that either refuses to comment on, or denies they've used phosphorous in Gaza, and said they haven't used any illegal weapons under international law?
Very reliable and trustworthy sources then.
Pronouncements from Hamas are as they say, problematic, especially so when the Hamas charter cites The Protocols of Zion as rationale for their ongoing hatred of Israel. Interesting too, that support for Hamas is by no means pan-Arab.
ReplyDeleteSee http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/
Founding statements of resistance organisations are always problematic. Here is one from the Zionist Stern gang.
ReplyDelete“Neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition can disqualify terrorism as a means of combat. We are very far from having any moral qualms as far as our national war goes. We have before us the command of the Torah, whose morality surpasses that of any other body of laws in the world: “Ye shall blot them out to the last man.”
Notable members of the Stern Gang were Menachim Begin and Ytzak Rabin.
Contradictorily, though, Mashal met Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei in Tehran on 27 May 2008 and told him, "The Palestinian nation will continue its resistance despite all pressures and will not under any circumstances stop its jihad."
ReplyDeleteThis just following his offer of hudna to Carter.
Why would Khaled try to distance this conflict from his religion? Possibly because in the Hadith Muhammad permits the killing of non-combatants (Bukhari 52:256) and gems such as "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" (Tabari 9:69).
Brewerstroupe, the Stern gang issued its declaration 60 years ago. That 60 year old quote, even if it's accurate simply can't be taken as a rebuttal of the present day Hamas charter. And, I repeat Hamas does not enjoy pan-Arab support...
ReplyDeleteBritish Diplomat and former British Ambassador to the UN Sir Jeremy Greenstock stated in an interview on the BBC Today Programme that the Hamas charter was "drawn up by a Hamas linked imam some years ago and has never been adopted since Hamas was elected as the Palestinian government in 2006". Greenstock also stated that Hamas is not intent on the destruction of Israel and that nor is it politically tied to Iran.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Hamas_documents
"drawn up by a Hamas linked imam some years ago and has never been adopted since Hamas was elected as the Palestinian government in 2006"
ReplyDeleteIt was authored by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and Abd al-Aziz al- Rantisi, the co-founders of Hamas.
This is a cached version of Hamas's old english website taken offline by US in 2004.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7823000/7823746.stm
ReplyDeleteInterview with Blair and Sir Jeremy Greenstock:
"They are not intent on the destruction of Israel. That's a rhetorical statement of resistance and not part of their programme."
"The tragedy about what is happening is that the cessation of rocket fire on Israel would have been possible if Israel had lived up to its obligations under the June ceasefire to open the crossings. Now the opening of the crossings have got to be part of the solution. It should have been done earlier as part of a political advance. That's the tragedy."
He added that the Hamas charter opposing Israel's existence was "drawn up by a Hamas-linked imam some years ago and has never been adopted since Hamas was elected as the Palestinian government in January 2006 as a part of its politcal programme". "This is a grievance-based organisation desperate to end the occupation".
Thank you anon. for the directions to the 2004 Hamas website. This statement..."There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with... "is a pathological hymn of hate. Why would Israel attempt any sort of peaceful negotiation with a group that declares negotiation useless ?
ReplyDeleteJudging by some of the sentiments here, it surely can't be long before a kiwi-based hamas-marx alliance takes shape...cue J.Minto...
"On January 25, 2006, the day Palestinian Legislative Council elections were held, Dr. Mahmoud al-Zahar, senior Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip and candidate for the post of foreign minister, stated that Hamas was committed to the ideology of its 1988 charter. He noted emphatically that “the movement [would] not change a single word in its charter,” which calls for the destruction of the State of Israel, and would not become a purely political movement, but quite the opposite, it would continue its policy of “resistance” (i.e., terrorist attacks) (Reuters, Gaza, January 25)."
ReplyDeleteSo, the left in NZ, true to George Orwell have decided that Hamas good, Israel bad. What a pack of mealy mouthed hypocrites.
ReplyDeleteOur esteemed social commentators of the left have committed themselves to a present day Hitler-Stalin non-aggression pact...
Nice to see some informed participants here who are able to counter Brewer's constant linking and insistance that Palistians can do no wrong and Israel can do no right.
ReplyDeleteMontagues and Capulets
ReplyDeleteRomeo and Juliet
what have we become?
Montagues with Capulets
better late than never
Romeo with Juliet
together loved
put to rest
allowed to be
better late than never
A note on method.
ReplyDeleteA noteworthy tactic in this war of words sorts the truthseekers from the trolls. You will notice that the timeline becomes rather flexible in the hands of the Israeli boosters.
This has been going on for a long time. Regarding the terror that dove 700,000 Palestinians from their homes they say - that was war. Yet most of the expulsions took place before the war began and was, in fact the reason the Arab League felt it had to act.
In this current atrocity, Israel claims that Hamas broke the truce by firing rockets. What they neglect to mention is that they did not observe the truce from day one inasmuch as they did not open the crossings (a term of the truce) and that they had killed 30 Gazans before any rockets were fired.
Now we have the same sort of thing. Yesterday's testimony by Britain's one time Ambassador to the U.N. who is in serious talks with Hamas is rejected in favour of some bellicose statements made several years ago by Dr. Mahmoud al-Zahar.
If anyone has reason to be bellicose it is Zahar. Two of his sons have been killed by Israeli targeted assassinations and his house was bombed in an attempt to assassinate him. Ten other houses were destroyed and about 30 people seriously wounded, including his daughter.
Zahar was considered for the leadership of Hamas but passed on as he is considered too radical.
They are rather reluctant to consider the terrorism carried out by the Irgun, Stern Gang and Haganh however. That was long ago, they say.
The words of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, founder and spiritual leader of the political party Shas, Israel's third largest political party don't seem to rate a mention:
"It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable,"
Funny that.
A mock report*
ReplyDeleteThe war was interrupted today with isolated out-breaks of peace and good-will. If these acts continue it could escalate into full-blown peace, potentially engulfing the entire country with spontaneous laughter and good-will. Some are saying at this rate, if unimpeded, that love will have spread across all of civil-society by the end of the week, possibly even before then.
An Arms Spokesman said: 'We hope this is only a temporary setback for us and are working around the clock to insure our on-going success in the region.'
"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.
ReplyDelete"We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
" ... we should prepare to go over to the offensive with the aim of smashing Lebanon, Trans-jordan and Syria... The weak point in the Arab coalition is Lebanon [for] the Moslem regime is artificial and easy to undermine. A Christian state should be established... When we smash the [Arab] Legions strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan, too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria, and Cairo." " David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1970
"We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
How long do you want this pissing contest to go on?
Brewerstroupe - small point the 700,000 palestinians you refer to left on the advice of arab/palestinian militia/army to enable them to attack Israel in 1948. They were told they could come back in a few days after the Israelis were driven out. 60 years later still no chance by Hamas from the intent of 1948. By the way why is it it is only Gaza that fires rockets at Israel. The West bank which is palestinian seems to have no trouble not firing rockets at Israel or having Israel retailiate for not being bombed every day for the last eight years.
ReplyDeleteStop reading anti-Israel/US/West literature everyday and you might just see that the world is a nit more complex and not everything people do that is anti-Israel/US/West is a good thing.
They were driven out by a concerted campaign of terror:
ReplyDeleteBenny Morris, himself a committed Zionist and Professor of history at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Be’er Sheva had this to say about his book:
” It is based on many documents that were not available to me when I wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel Defense Forces Archives. What the new material shows is that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were also many cases of rape. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-state defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves."
http://www.logosjournal.com/morris.htm
This:
left on the advice of arab/palestinian militia/army to enable them to attack Israel in 1948. They were told they could come back in a few days after the Israelis were driven out
...is bullshit.
"The "broadcast" issue relates to whether or not the Palestinian Arab population who were dispossessed were induced or incited to run away by their own leadership during the 1948 Palestinian exodus. Hitchens refers to Benny Morris´s then newly published article The Causes and Character of the Arab Exodus from Palestine: The Israel Defence Forces Intelligence Service Analysis of June 1948, which was first published in January 1986 in the Middle Eastern Studies.
According to Hitchens this confirmation; "by an Israeli historian using the most scrupulous and authentic Zionist sources, at last allows us to write finis to a debate which has been going on for a quarter of a century...
..."Examining every official Israeli statement about the Arab exodus, I was struck by the fact that no primary evidence of evacuation orders was ever produced.
The most famous scholar of this group, Benny Morris, concludes that Jewish military attacks were the main direct cause of the exodus, followed by Arab fear due to the fall of a nearby town, Arab fear of impending attack, and expulsions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_exodus#Debate_on_the_causes_of_the_Palestinian_exodus
And if you want to know the facts about the "48 war, try this:
“In the Event of invading [Arab] forces were limited to approximately 30,000 men. The strongest single contingent was the Jordanian * one, already described. Next came Egyptians with 5,500 men, then the Iraqis with 4,500 who ….. were joined by perhaps 3,000 local irregulars. The total was thus around eight rather under strength brigades, some of them definitely of second-and even third-rate quality. To these must be added approximately 2,000 Lebanese (one brigade) and 6,000 Syrians (three brigades). Thus, even though the Arab countries [population] outnumbered the Yishuv by better then forty-to-one, in terms of military manpower available for combat in Palestine the two sides were fairly evenly matched. As time went on and both sides sent reinforcements the balance changed in the Jews’ favor; by October they had almost 90,000 men and women under arms, the Arabs only 68,000.” (Martin Van Creveld The Sword And The Olive, p. 77-78)
Martin van Creveld, an Israeli soldier and Hebrew university historian, is a renowned military strategist who is the author of twelve books and is the only non-American on the U.S. Army’s required reading list for officers.
*The Jordanians were in league with the Zionists
Stop wasting my time and go read a book. Preferably on the History that you purport to be familiar with.
Brewerstroupe: love your work. I appreciate all your efforts here and on other blogs.
ReplyDelete*The Jordanians were in league with the Zionists
ReplyDeleteWhy would that be I wonder? Probably something to do with the reason why we never hear for calls for a return to the pre 1947 boarders of "Palistine"
Anon 8:19
ReplyDeleteWhere are Israel's borders?
Where are Palistines?
ReplyDelete"Benny Morris, himself a committed Zionist and Professor of history at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Be’er Sheva"
ReplyDeleteActually Morris was a left wing Israeli historian who wrote numerous CRITICAL books on the violent foundation of Israel.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/feb/21/israel2
I wouldn't be surprised if Brewer used then as the basis of his own views on Israel but I guess given Morris' own revisionist views he's had to repudiate his authority.
Seriously Brewer, Where are Palistine's borders?
ReplyDeleteDo you agree with the 1947 UN partition plan as shown on the second map of the image at the top of this blog that has been posted several time the last week or so?
The one that cuts Israel into three?
Would you be satisfied with that? WOuld the Palistinians? Do you think the rocket attacks and suicide bomngs would stop then?
Some words and meanings...
ReplyDeleteethnic cleansing:
"A euphemism to describe the forceful removal or genocide of minority ethnic groups (see ethnicity) during the breakup of Yugoslavia. It was used mainly to describe the Serbs' attacks on Muslims in Bosnia and Albanians in Kosovo. (See Slobodan Milosevic and Kosovo War.)"
The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
genocide:
"1944, apparently coined by Polish-born U.S. jurist Raphael Lemkin in his work "Axis Rule in Occupied Europe" [p.19], in reference to Nazi extermination of Jews, lit. "killing a tribe," from Gk. genos "race, kind" (see genus) + -cide, from L. -cidere "kill," comb. form of caedere "to cut, kill" (see concise). The proper formation would be *genticide."
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
and
"the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group."
Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2009.
race:
"the human race or family; humankind: Nuclear weapons pose a threat to the race. "
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
species:
"the species, the human race; mankind: a study of the species."
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
-Yes, absolutely words and meanings matter.
"Seriously Brewer, Where are Palistine's borders?"
ReplyDeleteThe Warsaw Ghetto in brewers opinion.