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Wednesday, May 04, 2011

Green with envy over Mana Party



Russel Norman scorns Mana Party
Green Party co-leader Russel Norman has attacked Hone Harawira's new Mana Party as a throwback to the last century.

Oh hush your fussing Russel Norman, it's not like the writing hasn't been on the wall for a new left party, I pointed it out in November of last year on TVNZ7's Backbenchers, more listening = less shock when it happens (ask Cactus Kate who is still sobbing at the demise of her beloved Rodney Hide, I pointed out ACT's demise last year as well).

The Greens are fearful that Mana will take away some of their vote, they shouldn't be. The Greens are going to pick up more votes than they'll lose to Mana from National. Now a Brash Key Government is the only right wing political option on offer, moderate NZers who voted for John Key's smile and wave will flee to either Labour or the Greens because a vote for John is a vote for Don. Seeing as the Greens are more than happy to use Hone's proxy vote in Parliament but won't allow the poor genuine political representation, the Greens are sounding a bit middle class right now. A watered down lime attempting to appeal to Remuera soccer mums isn't what is needed, a strong vibrant Green Party with a stronger ally who can help negotiate a better deal than the Greens have managed in a bloody decade is what is needed.

As for fighting last century's battles, yes Russel, we are still fighting last centuries battles because they haven't been won yet. We are fighting 18th century coal generation as well. Russel will pick up the phone to Hone post election day, just like Phil Goff will, because Russel is a true patriot who wouldn't stand by and allow the worst excesses of Brash and Key to govern this country.

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At 4/5/11 9:01 pm, Blogger Ross Calverley said...

The Financial Transaction Tax touted by the Mana Party was originally adapted by Kelvyn Alp for the party DDP in 2004 for the 2005 General Elections. (And he has proof of this) He has carried that policy into the OURNZ Party (going through formal registration).



Kelvyn approached Hone Harawira via Hone’s relations seeking to unite minor parties with similar aims. Hone asked for 1) the OURNZ Party policies (available at http://www.ournz.net/) to see if there were areas of agreement and 2) Mike Tamaki to call him. This was done and contact ceased.



His application of the Transaction Tax is inappropriate and will raise prices.



The original policy: Taxation rates are too high, meaning that companies are at a disadvantage when competing for foreign investment, business on the world stage and for real growth.



The solution is a 1% Transaction Tax on all outgoing financial transactions. The tax will replace ALL other taxes including many “hidden” taxes. Software programmed into RBNZ’s electronic clearing system will state daily transactions of the banking system, meaning implementation will be simple. Calculated on total transacted amount per annum, a tax of 1% will provide the Government with sufficient operating revenue.



Some think it would negatively affect the economy. This is a false notion and it will have a beneficial effect on the economy through being able to tax money that is now untaxed. This solution will bring prosperity, increases in employment and less dependence on the State.



Money was intended to distribute goods and services at an agreed value. Money was never meant to be a commodity. The solution is not to tax the real wealth of this country (labour, resources, business etc), but rather to tax how wealth is distributed. With no income tax, nor GST to pay, everybody will effectively have a pay rise.



So, the only Party that understands the application of the policy properly is OURNZ Party and we shall be campaigning on this and other policies this year. Join us on the OURNZ Group discussion page on Facebook!

 
At 5/6/11 11:31 am, Blogger Richard said...

The FTT was not an original idea of Kelvyn Alp. It's been around forever. The Alliance had it as a policy when they were elected in the 90s and the Social Credit movement had it before that.

Admittedly they didn't make the extraordinary claim that it could replace all other taxes but perhaps they had an understanding of basic economics.

 
At 5/6/11 11:32 am, Blogger Richard said...

The FTT was not an original idea of Kelvyn Alp. It's been around forever. The Alliance had it as a policy when they were elected in the 90s and the Social Credit movement had it before that.

Admittedly they didn't make the extraordinary claim that it could replace all other taxes but perhaps they had an understanding of basic economics.

 
At 5/6/11 10:53 pm, Blogger Ross Calverley said...

Double post. Also the tax that the Alliance and the Social Credit proposed was a Torbin tax. And you are assuming they have a grasp of economics?!

 
At 6/6/11 11:31 am, Blogger Richard said...

ops re double post.

They were not proposing a specific 'Tobin' tax, which traditionally refers to a tax on international currency transactions.

They proposed a domestic revenue gathering FTT just like Alp's proposed but without the extraordinary claim that it can replace all taxes.

The understanding of basic economics that they have shown but Alp has not is that a relatively high price on something will reduce the demand for it. 1% on transactions would stop the overwhelming majority of them immediately.

Anyway how about coming up with a detailed analysis of how Alp's FTT could work since he hasn't done so?

 

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