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Thursday, November 18, 2010

Private McPrison will generate $1.2billion but cost $1.3billion



Backing for fast track jail
Auckland Mayor Len Brown is backing a Government move to fast-track resource consent hearings for a new prison in South Auckland.

But he is out of step with Manurewa Local Board chairman Daniel Newman, who says local views on the 960-bed prison at Wiri would be better heard through the normal resource consent process used by councils.

The prison is the second major project in Auckland which the Government wants rushed through its consenting phase.

The prison, planned to be running by 2014, would be the first in New Zealand to be designed, built and operated under a public-private partnership and was needed to cope with the extra 2270 prison beds needed by 2019. An economic impact report expected the prison to bring $1.2 billion to the region over its 30-year lifespan.


Oh it's going to generate $1.2billion is it? Everyone, quickly. let's skip to the fucking pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and sing a little song of love for private prisons, Crusher Collins couldn't sing enough praise for the $1.2billion this private prison is supposed to generate in 30 years yet the reality is that the Private Prison at Wiri that Len Brown wants to fast rack WILL ACTUALLY COST $1.3BILLION! so we are out of pocket $100million PLUS the fact that the head of GEO told the select committee into Private Prisons that it wouldn't be cheaper than the public system.

So why is Len so hell bent on building this monstrosity that will allow the Private Prison industry to warp social policy with a profit motive?

The private sector may be able to do some things more 'efficiently' than the Government, but public services are for the benefit of the people, corporations are to maximize profits for themselves - no matter how the right spin it, that is the reality. The Corporation doesn't give a toss about you, so back to Len Brown, why fast track this?

16 Comments:

At 18/11/10 9:37 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where did you get the figure 1.3B cost?? Surely even you are aware building it would not be that expensive. Are you incorporating annual operating costs etc??

 
At 18/11/10 10:00 am, Blogger Bomber said...

oh wow, you must be new to blogs, see the words WILL ACTUALLY COST $1.3BILLION! in capitals with the link?

$101 million on construction and $40m per year for 30 years on wages. That’s $1.3 billion over 30 years

Crusher Collins is the source of the figures

 
At 18/11/10 3:47 pm, Anonymous jon said...

Yep, far to much money when it could be taken care of with a couple of acres of desert, some electrified fencing, armed guard towers and a few wooden huts.
More money wasted on scum who cannot conform to the simplest requirements for living in a civilized society.

 
At 18/11/10 8:23 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're the one who wanted additional public spending Bobo so when it arrives you start whining?

More construction jobs, prison officer jobs and additional policy analysts in wellington with more crims locked up. What more more can you ask for?

 
At 18/11/10 9:19 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bomber you are getting soft. I think it was the greens that said they will spend the night in jail if it costs less than 300 million to build. http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/wiri-will-cost-more-300-million

Latest figures are closer to that than any other. When Springhill was built it cost 380 million and was not even that big.

 
At 18/11/10 10:07 pm, Anonymous kiki said...

Jails are our only growth industry we must support them as mauch as we can

 
At 19/11/10 7:09 am, Anonymous sdm said...

Its will save $1.3 billion over the thirty year live time.

 
At 19/11/10 8:03 am, Anonymous AAMC said...

My suggestion, all Anon posters move to their spiritual homeland of America, a model society of incarceration, homelessness, bankruptcy, endless war and megalomania We don't want your utopia here!

 
At 19/11/10 8:40 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AAMC

Would you go and live in Iran then?

 
At 19/11/10 12:17 pm, Anonymous AAMC said...

Why do you bother Anon, what has Iran got to do with the stupidity of a conveyor belt to prison and private enterprise profiting from it. What have you got other than monosylibic grunts to back up your beliefs? How does this benifit anybody? Wouldn't you rather just put all the "baddies" on a train and send them to the chamber!?

 
At 19/11/10 12:36 pm, Anonymous BBND said...

aamc has obviously never been to America.

Tell us aamc how many refugees from America risk their lives every year trying sneak into these socialist utopian countries of yours?

 
At 19/11/10 4:32 pm, Anonymous AAMC said...

Yeah I've lived there for a couple of short 3 month stints and visited a couple of other times.

Desperate people run to where they think they'll find opportunity. Unfortunately most of them end up in a ghetto or on the street once they're there. Your point?

Yes, historically there have been more freedoms in America than in many other places, and it's exactly that tradition - government of the people, by the people and for the people - that I'm advocating. I'm just not sure if you've noticed that they might not have the moral high ground on that anymore, despite what mummy tells you as she's tucking you in.

 
At 20/11/10 12:24 pm, Anonymous BNDD said...

despite what mummy tells you as she's tucking you in.

Beautiful. This from the guy crying aboutother people using emotional arguments


Your point?

My point is painfully obvious but you are either deliberately ignoring it or seriously stupid. YOU paint America as a god forsaken hell-hole yet hundreds of thousands of refugees and immigrants (legal and illegal) continue to try to get in.

They don't think there is more oppurtunity in America, they know it. That is why they don't all turn around and flee back to where they came from.

So, many of them end up in ghettos and you think this is a trump card. Name for me one country on earth where refugees, illegal immigrants and the majority of legal immigrants don't end up in the cheapest places to live. Just one amcc.

What you are to thick to realise that the ghettos of western countries are still way better than the third world shit holes these people come from. And in countries like America these people can rise out of the ghetto with their free education and economic oppurtunity - something that would never happen in the places they came from.

But if believing that America is a worse place to live for these people helps you sleep at night, then go right ahead.

I'm just not sure if you've noticed that they might not have the moral high ground on that anymore

What? Has America stopped it's people from voting in democratic elections now? When did this happen?


Again, I'll ask the question: how many refugees from America risk their lives every year trying sneak into these socialist utopian countries of yours?

 
At 21/11/10 2:42 am, Anonymous AAMC said...

'-noun, pl.-cies.
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.'

Washington has three lobbyists for every elected representative. Only an elite backwd by incomprehensible amounts of money can stand the cahance of being elected to government and the population is infirmed by Rupert Murdoch, it's the shell of a democracy, you live in fantasy land! And the Pentagon pulls the strings anyway.

 
At 21/11/10 3:23 am, Anonymous AAMC said...

" in countries like America these people can rise out of the ghetto with their free education and economic oppurtunity"

You believe in the American Dream, how quaint. Even when 1 in 7 Americans live in poverty?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100916/ap_on_bi_ge/us_census_poverty

As North Korea doesn't provide an adequate model for society BNDD, neither does America, and the notion that it does is antiquated. Perhaps we could strive for some new ideas, or are you content with the status quo? As long as you're alright eh!

 
At 21/11/10 8:44 am, Blogger Bomber said...

And yet sdm the head of geo - the private prison company you cheerlead for - says you are a liar and that his private prison wont save money at all.

As for your lie that it is cheaper...

$101 million on construction and $40m per year for 30 years on wages. That’s $1.3 billion over 30 years

...I think that clears it up.

 

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