Kurariki back to jail - what a surprise
Kurariki heads back to prison
One of the country's youngest killers is back in jail, this time for the indecent assault of two female journalists. Bailey Junior Kurariki, 21, was sentenced this week to 11 months in prison with strict release conditions following the attack on the journalists, whose names are suppressed.
Don't you love throwing kids into detention centers for being mere look outs in a bungled robbery and then watching them explode when dumped back into society with zero rehabilitation? Here he is, our little Bailey exploding because we lock people up in NZ, we don't bother rehabilitating them because that would cost money, far better we dehumanize them and they come out and commit more crime.
If we are going to lock them up, why the hell not rehabilitate them as well? We have allowed Simon Power to convince NZ that prison is an adult Disneyland with under floor heating, flat screen televisions and landscaping that competes with the grand gardens of Europe, so we scream to make it harder and nastier and then we get the result like Bailey and don't seem to like it.
Hilarious, our ability to knee jerk in this country never ceases to amaze me.
posted by Bomber @ 7:52 am
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So Bomber are you suggesting that people at that age dont know that robbery is illegal/bad?
I supposed everytime's the michael choy's mother, Rita Croskery is in media criticising him that you will condemn her for pushing for stronger sentences. So come on, what do you think someone who behaves like that and is involved in the death of someone should be punished for? Are you going to condemn Rita Croskery for her involvement in Sensible Sentencing, or are you in a better position to judge her plight and feelings on the matter than she is?
How many times did Bailey hit Michael Choy Anon? It must have been a lot to get that incredibly long sentence right?
i've always contended that it was a lynch mob that sent bailey off to prison and that sending a child off to detention center was just a symptom of our broken justice system.
You must be pleased he's been dehumanized enough to bounce right back in there right?
How many times did Bailey hit Michael Choy?
I didnt sit through the trial like you obvoiusly did so I cannot answer that. So you are saying that Rita Croskery is part of the lynch mob in insisting he is sent back to prison. Are you condemning Rita Croskery everytime she is in the media calling for tougher sentences. Are relatives of murder victims like her divorced from reality in insisting for tougher sentences? Are you going to publicly register you disgust at calling for Bailey going back to prison? How do you think that someone who behaved like he did to female journalists be treated or do you support such behavior?
Annon - first of all I am appalled at your contention that it is 'Sensible Sentencing'. If this type of sentencing is so sensible why would it increase crime? Yes Rita Croskery is hurting, but wouldn't you think that part of her would want to decrease the chances of this happening to anyone else not increase them? To me sentencing that reduces crime is real sensible sentencing, not that which the Sensible Sentencing Trust supports, which is based on hate and fear rather than empirical evidence. And while I can see why victims would want harsher sentences, that does not mean that the criminal justice system should hand out harsher sentences. As the Chief Justice, Sian Elias, quoted two criminologists (MacCormick and Garland, 1998) as saying - the criminal justice system is meant to "turn hot vengeance into cool, impartial justice". If they only listen to what victims want, then it will only be hot vengeance and no justice.
Rita Croskery has every right to be extremely pissed. For sure Kurariki was a part of the attack, but did Kurariki actually land any blows to the victim?
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So if you just stand and watch someone being murdered that's OK.
Did Bailey do anything to help this poor victim.
Hey Bradbury, you ever considered that Kurariki is an irredeemable animal? No? Wow, what a shock.
Anyone interested in helping inmates can contact the chaplain at their local prison. All prisons have a tax payer funded anglican chaplain (they all have a full time catholic priest or nun as well, but I am not sure if they are paid by the goverment) they are the can help organise prison visitors, programs, classes, groups etc.
Alternatively contact PARS.
If you have a profesional program contact local management or head office - they are always looking for the next big thing - so far nothing has worked but they live in hope.
Kurariki is not personally a killer as the media continually brand him. Though he may well become one in future if he does not suicide in prison. An accessory yes, wrong place at wrong time more like it.
The Herald journos wound him up (read the story they filed) and they are definitely implicated in the continued hounding this guy will never escape from if he remains in NZ.
Choy’s mother is entitled to feel and say pretty much what she likes, but it is ugly sadistic company she is keeping in SST and McVicar.
I didnt sit through the trial like you obvoiusly did so I cannot answer that. So you are saying that Rita Croskery is part of the lynch mob in insisting he is sent back to prison. Are you condemning Rita Croskery everytime she is in the media calling for tougher sentences. Are relatives of murder victims like her divorced from reality in insisting for tougher sentences? Are you going to publicly register you disgust at calling for Bailey going back to prison? How do you think that someone who behaved like he did to female journalists be treated or do you support such behavior?
Yawn. No.
So if you just stand and watch someone being murdered that's OK.
Did Bailey do anything to help this poor victim.
GRIN - I love how someone with such little understanding of the circumstances is still prepared to comment.
If you have a profesional program contact local management or head office - they are always looking for the next big thing - so far nothing has worked but they live in hope.
Why do you lie anon? No rehabilitation program has ever worked wails anon and urges us to sign up ourselves.
Yawn
Bullshit claims that rehabilitation doesn't work when they are being slashed is a joke.
Come on Trolls, lift your justifications for locking people up in prison longer.
Oh and as for this ...
Hey Bradbury, you ever considered that Kurariki is an irredeemable animal? No? Wow, what a shock.
2 things, 1, my friends call me bradbury, you can call me Mr Bradbury
2, zzzzz by name, zzzzz by nature. Wake me when you have something interesting to add.
C'mon, our justice has the softest or near softest tarriffs in the world. I'm not wasting a tear on Bratley Junior Killerbees when the Yanks kept Susan Atkins locked up for 40 years till she died of cancer, immobile in bed with one leg lopped off, but unable to get compassionate release because it didn't fit Arnys popularity profile; perma dungeon-holed on 8 murder counts none of which she did personally. She was outside in the car and refused to even go inside with the killers on 2 counts. And then there are the many death penalties in the US and elsewhere. Bratley is overprivileged... and as if he didn't get bulk rehab input with the likes of Workman rooting for him. Hey my Mothers drunk driving killer just got another conviction I heard. But they couldn't reissue his licence to kill fast enough - he might need it in case he finds a convivial job. Bratley clearly has no remorse ot regrets about the death he was part of plotting or he would not now be seeking to demean journalists with unwanted sexual behaviour. He joined the Killer bees using his killer cred -find me a violin. No just find a better poster child, puhleese.
' ...... Ms Wolfe's death takes to five the number of cyclists killed on New Zealand's roads in the last five days, including the death of 27-year-old Jane Mary Bishop who was hit and killed by a truck on Tamaki Rd last night...... '
A word about these killings would be welcome. People have got to learn to be more considerate to others.
Being 'sorry' is not good enough (is that 'sorry' for what they did, or 'sorry' for the inconvenience they have been caused by someone be so selfish as to die.)
In my experience 'remorse' and 'sorry' are about as sincere as an enquiry of 'how are you today' from a supermarket check-out operator.
In every aspect of life (and death) its our actions that matter not our words.
Every driver should have to spend a couple of hours on a bike and experience the total lack of consideration we get.
Bla, both sides in this argument (the ‘lock em all up’ and ‘rehabilitate everyone’) are fricken delusional. The two greatest preventers of violent crime are more cops and abortion (hilariously enough - statistically true even if morally reprehensible) so the rest is tiddly winks. Maybe sterilising vast swathes of fuckwit parents as well – again morally reprehensible apparently, but likely more effective than trying to rehabilitate a 14yo murderer.
In terms of Bailey, my father (who as discussed has always worked in lower decile schools by choice as he thinks he makes more of a difference there – and is waay more tolerant than me) described Bailey as the most evil child he has ever had the displeasure of meeting. As I trust him more than your delirious rants on everything (yes this is no better, but what would be the point – you ask for reason in debating sentencing, and then give extreme hyperbole to other issues – kind of ironic).
Even if he is able to be ‘rehabilitated’ it would be a hell of allot cheaper to put a bullet in his head (again morally reprehensible – and no I do not support giving the State the ability to kill its citizens, but still factually correct).
I guess the way I look at it is we could spend hundreds of thousands – (including his incarceration costs) on rehabilitating him so that one day he maybe can live a normal life, or we could spend that cash on our health care system, education, foreign aid, hell I would rather give it to planting some trees, least they look pretty. So what do we do with him then? Turn Stewart Island in a giant prison, kind of like Australia was. Ship no hopers off there, and leave emm there (there you go no prison costs and no escape).
In the same line putting kids in jail for minor offences (includes burglary) is stupid. But once they reach the level of what this fuck head did, seriously chuck him in a pit, the pit of Stewart island. Having such a place would mean your low security prisons have an ultimate trump card too. if anyone tries anything on, boom go to ‘Stewart Island Prison resort’ and do not return, you will not be missed.. Any idiot stupid enough to try and escape deserves to go to such a place.
To those who say the above is not coherent, ethical, or caring, I don't care. I am just sick of a huge portion of the states resources being spent on scum, who just leach, and then having to avoid the same scum for want of being stabbed or bet up. Fuck em frankly and fuck Bailey. Send emm off to Stewart Island, they can found Australia mrk 2.0, and let the 99% of the population who are not arseholes live a normal life.
Bla, both sides in this argument (the ‘lock em all up’ and ‘rehabilitate everyone’) are fricken delusional. The two greatest preventers of violent crime are more cops and abortion (hilariously enough - statistically true even if morally reprehensible) so the rest is tiddly winks. Maybe sterilising vast swathes of fuckwit parents as well – again morally reprehensible apparently, but likely more effective than trying to rehabilitate a 14yo murderer.
In terms of Bailey, my father (who as discussed has always worked in lower decile schools by choice as he thinks he makes more of a difference there – and is waay more tolerant than me) described Bailey as the most evil child he has ever had the displeasure of meeting. As I trust him more than your delirious rants on everything (yes this is no better, but what would be the point – you ask for reason in debating sentencing, and then give extreme hyperbole to other issues – kind of ironic).
Even if he is able to be ‘rehabilitated’ it would be a hell of allot cheaper to put a bullet in his head (again morally reprehensible – and no I do not support giving the State the ability to kill its citizens, but still factually correct).
I guess the way I look at it is we could spend hundreds of thousands – (including his incarceration costs) on rehabilitating him so that one day he maybe can live a normal life, or we could spend that cash on our health care system, education, foreign aid, hell I would rather give it to planting some trees, least they look pretty. So what do we do with him then? Turn Stewart Island in a giant prison, kind of like Australia was. Ship no hopers off there, and leave emm there (there you go no prison costs and no escape).
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In the same line putting kids in jail for minor offences (includes burglary) is stupid. But once they reach the level of what this fuck head did, seriously chuck him in a pit, the pit of Stewart island. Having such a place would mean your low security prisons have an ultimate trump card too. if anyone tries anything on, boom go to ‘Stewart Island Prison resort’ and do not return, you will not be missed.. Any idiot stupid enough to try and escape deserves to go to such a place.
To those who say the above is not coherent, ethical, or caring, I don't care. I am just sick of a huge portion of the states resources being spent on scum, who just leach, and then having to avoid the same scum for want of being stabbed or bet up. Fuck em frankly and fuck Bailey. Send emm off to Stewart Island, they can found Australia mrk 2.0, and let the 99% of the population who are not arseholes live a normal life.
Stewart Island is a very beautiful, relatively untouched haven. Hands off it.
Send em to Waiheke ;)
Rather than Stewart or Waiheke Islands a better bet would be the Auckland Islands...
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