Rickards may work with troubled youth
Rickards may work with troubled youth
Former top policeman Clint Rickards may have found a new job working with troubled youth in west Auckland. Mr Rickards left his job as assistant commissioner in November last year, ending an internal police disciplinary action against him. In 2006 he and two former police officers Bob Schollum and Brad Shipton were acquitted of historic charges of raping Louise Nicholas during the 1980s. Today John Tamihere, chief executive of west Auckland urban Maori organisation the Waipareira Trust, said the trust had been in talks with Mr Rickards. "We're having discussions with Mr Rickards in regard to his potential in working with us in dropping youth offending in the West Auckland area," he told Radio New Zealand. "We think he's extraordinarily well qualified to support us in that regard."
Clint Rickards may work with troubled youth to teach them what exactly? How to get off rape charges while defending your two cop mates who are convicted gang rapists? That John Tamihere huh? After referring to women as ‘front bums’ I didn’t think he could surprise me any more, but this announcement is all class, Clint Rickards mentoring youth – I’m laughing so hard it’s difficult to type.
posted by Bomber @ 8:18 am
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Who would get more respect from maori youth, Bomber an white urban latte sucking liberal who has done nothing but mouth off and thinks it means something substantial or Rickards who has worked undercover infiltrating gangs, gained three times the educational qualifications of bomber and made his way up through the ranks of the police to a senior level.
As I write this I'm laughing at bombers over inflated sense of self importance.
Clint Rickards and John Tamihere..now there's a pair...wonder what they talk about over a few beers? Quite right, these two are all class. Not.
Who would get more respect from maori youth, Bomber an white urban latte sucking liberal who has done nothing but mouth off and thinks it means something substantial or Rickards who has worked undercover infiltrating gangs, gained three times the educational qualifications of bomber and made his way up through the ranks of the police to a senior level.
1: It's soy latte's I drink
2: I'm not putting myself up to get more respect from Moari Youth Anonymous Poster, Clint Rickards apparently is, so asking the question who would young Maori repect and then list a whole host of angry redneck talkback dog whistles to your description of me and then possibly the most eye wateringly optimistic account for Mr Rickards suggests you'll have a great job running the Herald one day.
As I write this I'm laughing at bombers over inflated sense of self importance.
This last line just didn't work for me, it came across as too bitter and resentful Anon, you've gotta leave people on a bit of a lighter step, a joke perhaps? Seeing as you are the one who has compared me to Clint in the eyes of young Maori and then laughed at the self importance of the very comparison you have constructed I think the Herald editorial job is aiming too low, with such self-referential logic, you should be writing ACT's 'global warming isn't man made' environmental policy.
Bomber, although I agree it is surprising, don't you think it's good that Rickards is going to be doing something that might help this community? We talk about rehabilitation. While I think these guys got away lightly I think if the guy wants to help then that's a good thing. And troubled youth aren't going to care about the ins and outs of Rickards criminal charges. The fact Rickards has a law degree & rose up in the police force suggests he has some redeeming qualities that the community could benefit from
Don't be fooled, Rickards is a nasty piece of work out for vengeance - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10510791
Had he been convicted, served his time like a man and then been truly sorry for what he was involved in he would deserve a second chance of course (just like Bailey Kurariki has - interesting to see the right-wing frothers views about the two cases)
uuum you've lost me Bomber.
On the one hand you decry a "medieval vengeance law and order policy" to be imposed on the general prison population and on the other you seek to impose the Bomber medieval vengeance law and order policy on a guy who was found not guilty of a twenty year old crime.
For me, there have been some "curious" verdicts recently but at some point we need to accept the verdict whatever it is, do the time or not as the case maybe and get on with it.
uuum you've lost me Bomber.
Let me un-lost you
On the one hand you decry a "medieval vengeance law and order policy" to be imposed on the general prison population
Correct it will cost $3.5billion-$5.5billion when that could be money spent on early intervention.
and on the other you seek to impose the Bomber medieval vengeance law and order policy on a guy who was found not guilty of a twenty year old crime.
Bomber medieval vengeance law? Let's see what Women's refuge think - or are they running a Women's refuge medieval vengeance law as well?
Women's refuge: Rethink Rickards job
The Waipareira Trust should rethink its decision to take on former top policeman Clint Rickards to work with troubled youth, Women's Refuges boss Heather Henare says.
West Auckland urban Maori organisation Waipareira Trust said it was negotiating with Mr Rickards, who was cleared in the High Court of sex charges, for a part time job to reduce the crime rate among Maori youth.
Mr Rickards resigned as assistant police commissioner in November last year, after three years on suspension while sex charges were resolved.
He was acquitted in the High Court at Auckland in March 2006 of raping Louise Nicholas in the 1980s.
In March last year he was also acquitted on sex charges against another woman.
Ms Henare, chief executive of National Collective of Independent Women's Refuges, said today that Mr Rickards had abused a position of responsibility in his community.
Ms Henare said she was concerned the Waipareira Trust did not appreciate how vulnerable young people were, and she called on it to rethink the decision.
Mr Rickards' first thoughts after his acquittal were not for his family but for his "convicted rapist mates in prison" and his complete denial of their guilt, she said.
His former colleagues Brad Shipton and Bob Schollum were then in prison for separate rape convictions.
"This is someone who is going to deter young people from committing more offences?" Ms Henare asked Radio New Zealand.
Mr Rickards continued not to acknowledge or take responsibility for his part in behaviour that was unacceptable, she said.
"I don't consider him a role model or someone who should be mentoring our young children.
"If I had a young daughter who was going to a youth group and Clint Rickards was put up as someone who was working with her I would be very concerned for her continued safety."
I think linking concerns of blowing $3.5billion-$5.5billion on a corporate profit prison system with a vested interest in longer and longer sentences and letting Rickards work with troubled youth after declaring his rapist cop mates aren't rapists suggests you are a lot more than lost Mike.
"Bomber medieval vengeance law? Let's see what Women's refuge think - or are they running a Women's refuge medieval vengeance law as well?"
The Law Society, Human Rights Commission as well as the Head of the Electoral Commission condemned the Electoral Finance Act as having a chilling effect on democracy which you chose to IGNORE because it didn't suit your particular political objectives: the re- election of a labour administration.
SO yet again you're selectively quoting interest groups to get support against a man who was found not guilty in due process.
Bomber has a major credibility gap.
The Law Society, Human Rights Commission as well as the Head of the Electoral Commission condemned the Electoral Finance Act as having a chilling effect on democracy which you chose to IGNORE because it didn't suit your particular political objectives: the re- election of a labour administration.
WHAT THE HELL? What do The Law Society, Human Rights Commission as well as the Head of the Electoral Commission have to do with Clint Rickards? I blogged on what Helen Cat had to say re the EFA and I marched in the first protest against it, I even described it as a mutant two headed peice of legislation.
SO yet again you're selectively quoting interest groups to get support against a man who was found not guilty in due process.
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS BEING SELECTIVE - how does this have anything to do with Clint Rickards?
Bomber has a major credibility gap.
You don't even attempt to refute what the Women's refuge has to say and instead try and link groups that I have blogged support for against the EFA in a deaperate attempt to make me look like I'm the one with the credibility gap when you are the selective one going well outside the issue of Clint Rickards to try and paint me that way.
SO yet again you're selectively quoting interest groups to get support against a man who was found not guilty in due process.
It's a blog site fuck knuckle, Tim and Bombers opinions, I imagine they're entitled to quote who they like in support of their opinions.
I could quote from Adolf Hitler's classic 'Mein Kampf' but how much credibility would that give me?
The point is fuck knuckle, Bomber routinely ignores opinions from credible institutions like the Human Rights Commission and then expects us to actually believe what he is claiming, which is the exact opposite of what these groups are saying, and expects us to believe him.
I would believe that bomber has a belief in liberal humanistic values and freedoms except that he subordinates those political expediency, supporting the Labour Party.
We all know you were against the first version of the EFB but with the second which is what those groups were against you whole heartedly supported the Labour govnt.
PS Don't you feel even one iota of remorse since Labour has now repudiated the EFA?
The point is fuck knuckle, Bomber routinely ignores opinions from credible institutions like the Human Rights Commission
That's not true
and then expects us to actually believe what he is claiming, which is the exact opposite of what these groups are saying, and expects us to believe him.
That's not true
I would believe that bomber has a belief in liberal humanistic values and freedoms except that he subordinates those political expediency, supporting the Labour Party.
The last bit isn't true
We all know you were against the first version of the EFB but with the second which is what those groups were against you whole heartedly supported the Labour govnt.
I support anything to guards against plutocracy
PS Don't you feel even one iota of remorse since Labour has now repudiated the EFA?
I support anything to guards against plutocracy
And again let's talk about selective - what has ANY of this got to do with Clint Rickards? Nothing at all
That is fair enough for Henare to say, but overwhelmingly, the people likely to be showing up in youth crime will be male.
Get real!Clint Rickard,is the walking talking epitome of"if you're going to transgress,DON'T GET CAUGHT!.Next thing that you hear,they'll be calling him a"role model".The guy was found not guilty,on the basis of 20yr old evidence,mainly hinging on memory recall,on charges of,among other things,rape,indecent assualt,etc.He was not found to be INNOCENT.His demeanor,and behaviour,after the trial,was an effront to common decency.Banging on about loyalty, and faith in his ex copper mates,who just happened to be convicted rapists,any way.His chief protector over the previous 20yrs,John Dewar, was later found guilty of perverting the course of justice,perjury,et al.Then he exited the police force,the day before he was due to face charges,of bringing the Police force into disrepute,among other things.The terms of his departure are confidential,so nobody really knows the details of the deal that went down.Now he has reinvented himself as a lawyer,the Law society has even agreed to his being called to the bar.Let him carry on his life scraping up legal work where he can,though I can't think of a law firm,that would be prepared to have him,in chambers.Whatever career he had in the Police force,was distinguished, for all the wrong reasons.I fail to see how a person of his calibre,could contribute,meaningfully to the rehabilition of young people who may have gone off the rails.If the Waipareira Trust,and John Tamihere, persist in following this folly,of employing him,through to its conclusion,then they are not the worthwhile organisation that deserves the support,that they seek.Quite frankly,his offending,may have taken place 20yrs ago,but I'd willingly wager that he is still the sort of bloke,who would,to put it in plain language,"root a sick dog,on a chain".
Ponty, I share your concern about the inability of the justice system to deal with obviously guilty offenders
Hopefully certain loyal citizens of NZ will be closely following the trial of the Uruwerea accused and be ready to take 'preventative' measures to stop them if the jury fails to find them guilty.
We can't allow terrorists to walk our streets.
Actually, the part that REALLY got me was not Clint Rickards (who it could be argued might have something to add, although personally I think he's at best complicit and protecting his friends and at worst a dirty rapist), but John Tamihere...
He didn't even TRY to defend his position against Women's Refuge concerns, but instead said that Women's Refuge should stick to its own job, and that "There's a new era, there's a new government, Clarkism is gone, that's what I want to tell Women's Refuge."
What the hell. Why is he not being crucified by the media for that?! Not to mention the National and the Labour party,who should both object to the inherent implications!
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