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Wednesday, July 23, 2008

We warned investors firmly about Hanover Finance in November 2006


Hanover's fucked. Half a billion dollars. From their statement this evening:

Mark Hotchin and fellow shareholder Eric Watson have pledged continued support for the business

Arguably the first time investors in these type of companies have actually supported their finance companies - instead of usually supporting themselves and their web of inter-linked companies that have been financed via these gullable "investors".

the industry model has collapsed

Model? What bloody model is that then? Property speculation and supporting the lifesyles of the promoters would be closer to the mark.

After Henderson's 5 Mile development rupture was clearly linked to Hanover it was curtains. Mr Bradbury had informed anyone who'd care to listen that from his apartment that over-looks the Hanover building he had witnessed them packing boxes for the last week and that their carpark had been largely empty too. But the writing was always on the wall. I warned our readers in November 2006:

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With Experience Comes Wisdom

After TVNZ’s veteran news anchor was cut loose by the piratical Bill Ralston I thought he could go on to keep hosting those fascinating documentaries on animals; animal feeding habits, animal homes, animal parasites, animal defecation etc. Sadly the only time I’ve seen Richard Long on television (or anywhere else for that matter) is when he’s endorsing a finance company through a series of abstract references about the nature of investing and abstract stories about family out buildings.

The advertisements for Hanover Finance are ubiquitous; and conspicuous by their absence is any mention at all as to what on Earth this company actually finances. In order of importance according to the time and prominence in its ads and commercial is Richard Long, abstract references linking history to trust, the interest rate offered, the name of the company, a TUANZ award, and the telephone number. But what are deposits financing?

Richard Long says:
”Investing is all about reliability and trust, making a choice you can rely on year after year.”
Well that’s splendid, Richard, but since even the large ads in print have absolutely no information whatsoever about this firm’s reliability – who they are or what they do.

How strange for a company at pains to stress history that it provides no hint as to how long it has existed, no hint as to what it’s track record is and no other endorsement apart from Mr. Long – and note too that he doesn’t even directly endorse it as such – it’s always in the abstract. (You know – just incase it all goes wrong.) Mr. Long voices over stories for the TV ads about some family that built a shed that survived a storm. What we would all like to know (because the shed, the family and the storm are not linked in any way to the company) is why so much time is given to an irrelevant excuse to use nostalgic imagery and not to convincing us to invest by providing… oh, I don’t know… maybe just one piece of information about who we’re supposed to be giving our money to? Indeed the issue of history and dependability is so completely avoided, and that question so desperately begs to be answered, that its failure to do so is alarming.

And what of the 8.55% being offered for 2 years, or perhaps more telling is that is the maximum rate and maturity. Trusting the firm over one year will only yield three-quarters of a percent over the Reserve Bank’s Official Cash Rate. Given inflation is hovering at almost 4% the return would hardly seem enough to justify giving it to an outfit so reluctant to divulge it’s credibility and yet that has enough funds to blitz all media sectors solidly for the last year. Almost as though… oh, I don’t know… the marketing push has to gain enough to pay the people going out the back door. I mean it isn’t an Albanian pyramid scheme or anything is it… is it. I mean it says:
Secured first ranking deposits*
That’s got to be safe, it says it is “secured” and it is “first ranking”, I mean how safe is that? Until you read the *:
*Ranking subject to prior charges (if any). Rates subject to change.
So what they mean by the asterix is “maybe – not really.” And depending on how it’s read so is the interest rate… right. OK. Hmm.

But look – it’s got an award from TUANZ (is that tourism? telecoms?) and it’s for… their call centre. So their call centre is worth boasting about, but not say… oh, I don’t know… their financial credibility. I’m sure the notorious “boiler rooms” of Thailand’s fly-by-night investment sales reps were good at what they do too: selling.

So, to recap: Hanover Finance offers a miserable interest rate (that may change to even less) for your money on a deposit that isn’t secured or first ranking (despite saying it is), whose hugely expensive ad campaign pushes “experience” and “reliability” despite disclaiming absolutely none of that about itself and whose only outside acknowledgement in its ads is for its call centre. I think the bad feng shui of their logo sums it all up: a double link of rings – but broken with a line of void right through it.

The buyer has been made aware.
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It seems as though over 15 thousand people were not so aware. In the year and a bit that followed they did put more data, tenuous data, in their ads, and then they dodged an advertising standards authority bullet:
Complaint: The television advertisement for Hanover Finance said: “Over 23 years Hanover Finance has performed constantly during a range of market conditions…”.
Complainant, J. White, was of the view that the advertisement was misleading as “..Hanover Finance Ltd has only been in existence since 2005…”
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From their statement:

The Hanover Finance book comprises approximately 13,000 investors with $465 million in debentures. United Finance has around 2,400 investors with $65 million in debentures. And Hanover Capital, offering secured preferential bonds, has around 1,100 investors with $24 million worth of bonds.

As a consumer finance business FAI Finance Limited, which is also a Hanover Finance subsidiary, is not proposed to be included in the restructure.

For further information, please contact Mark Hotchin, 09 362 7054

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13 Comments:

At 23/7/08 8:38 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many potential investors held serious doubts when Hanover until the 11th hour continued to use erstwhile "Father of the Nation", Richard Long, to promote it`s products? Each promotion in a climate of ongoing domino collapse of other Finance Companies. Each successive advertisement in an unfolding and deteriorating credit crunch both domestically and abroad. Were Ronald Brierley, Gareth Morgan or Brian Gaynor not up to the mark? Did Richard Long ever ask serious questions of the company, himself or his lawyers?

 
At 23/7/08 11:46 pm, Blogger celler said...

I was not surprised Hanover has now struck "difficult times" (putting it kindly) alarm bells started to ring in the companies handling of the Auckland Inner City development in not allowing the individual sale contracts inially gained by the original real estate company to proceed ("instead they prefered a fire sale") and shortly after Sam Stubbs resigned. I feel sorry for all the investors and RICHARD LONG who provided his "TRUSTED BRAND NAME" to the advertising promotional voice overs and I am sure he must be feeling pretty gutted ! (Along with all the investors) Why do these companys not apply more due diligence to to the projects they fund? It bloody well amazes me the amounty of money they sink into VERY SHAKY projects: And it is a shame the government has not applied or investigated more regulation into the requirement for all finance companies to have a minimum CASH RESERVE Policy!

Celler

 
At 24/7/08 12:08 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You may well have warned investors to get out back in Nov 06, But that didnt help anyone who had money tied up in 2/3 year debenture stock.I tried to get money back using a variety of reasons because I thought this was going to happen.No way would they do that..... Maybe I should just go and break some windows in Mark and Erics homes. I might feel better!!

 
At 24/7/08 12:50 am, Blogger Rangi said...

do it jah

 
At 24/7/08 8:49 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good honest Kiwis supprting the jetset lifestyles of yuppie moguls like Mark Hotchin and Eric Watson, who will unlikely face any personal losses from this collapse.

 
At 24/7/08 11:13 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We warned investors firmly about Hanover Finance in November 2006

I am most definately taking all my financial advice from Tumeke in the future.

 
At 24/7/08 4:26 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Me too Anon -

Tim and Bo ber, I've got 400k coming off term deposit on the 31st what shall I do with it?

 
At 24/7/08 5:23 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is worth noting that all those with hindsight bias did not say *anything* to the Securities Commission at the time. Which is what they should have done if they had any REAL concerns over and above coffee shop rumor.

The only one who did was my husband -VP of an offshore Bank - and he was roundly abused for his trouble.

So don't try and take the high road on this blog.

 
At 25/7/08 10:50 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have $50 worth of used 5 dollar bills under my mattress. Where should I invest it?

 
At 26/7/08 12:56 am, Blogger Tim Selwyn said...

I don't know where to invest it at the moment, just not in firms that have saturation advertising saying nothing about the real strength of the company or what it really invests in which only has a "BB++" as the best rating it could find. The risk was never properly represented by 9 or 10%.

All the voices of caution were drowned out by the massive ad spend - print, radio, TV, internet, everywhere.

You have to wonder if any financial advisers ever recommended putting money into Hanover. I can't imagine they would - but I would not be surprised if those that did (if any) were receiving agent's fees from Hanover and failed to disclose the conflict of interest. That sort of activity has happened before. Doug Somers-Edgar, Krukzeiner and Metropolis bond-holders comes to mind here - but I don't know what was proved.

 
At 26/7/08 6:01 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Congratulations on having the courage to publically criticise the bastards.
Wouldn't it be beautiful if our main stream media were as honest as you.

 
At 28/7/08 10:59 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did all these investors loose their money?
Simple... Greed+stupidity=1%
In order to make money you have to make a reasonable return on your cost of funds.
These poor souls were taken in ,but also without them there would never have been many of these grand failures.The market stood on the shoulders of these small fools until it collapsed from the pressure.
Basically the investors while knowing the risk of stepping outside or the first tier ,wanted to be something more than pawns in big banking.
They were taken in by their own "no.8 wire "/ kiwi can do mentality .
Anyway, where is all that money now?
If you remember the tv advertisements,you could see a bunch of people standing in a field in what looked like the area near Lake Whakatipu.
They were digging away .What it didn't show was what happened after the cameras stopped rolling.
All the gold is burried in the dirt that covers the investors deposits.
With the kiwi muck raking capabilities all will eventually be discovered.
I suggest starting in the suburbs of LA...maybe Brentwood.

 
At 18/9/08 7:45 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another perspective, If my site in Queenstown was recently sold for $2m and it was valued $20, hotel site in centre of town. what is Jacks Point worth. No way is it worth more than 10 cents in the dollar valuation. I suggest you get out while you can with a receiver so it doesnt hemorage anymore.

 

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